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Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology

Started by antimony, April 25, 2017, 09:09:27 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: itsu on July 10, 2018, 08:12:53 AM
I found the logic circuit of my led lamp, see picture.
The backside reads:  Y&M-TG-5-9W  so probably indeed a 9W led lamp.

Itsu
Hi Itsu,

Yes, the 5050 LED chip is designed for the 60 mA forward current and 3.1 - 3.4 V forward voltage and this roughly
gives 0.2 W power (each chip includes 3 LEDs in parallel with 20 mA current for each LED).  The 0.5 W version in this
chip family is labeled as 5054, so it is already a different type.The converter you show very likely provides a constant
current drive for the 3 LED boards in the lamp and I think the 3 boards are in series connection.
This way the constant current is 120 mA and the total voltage should be then 3 times the 23 V = 69 V DC,
this gives roughly 8.3 W power what the converter should provide.
Assuming a normal 90 % efficiency for such converter, the mains input power should be around 9.1 W into the converter.
Now what would be interesting is to feed a single such LED board from about 23 VDC source to let 60 mA current
flow and see the brightness as a reference for the oscillator...   8)
Gyula

gyulasun

Quote from: erfandl on July 10, 2018, 12:04:57 PM
Lidmotor - I build the crystal oscillator circuit with BD243C transistor. the transistor isn't get hot and stay cold
with 24 volt input. the current output from DC DC boost converter is 24 mA so 24*24= 576 mW
Hi Erfandl,

Good job with the crystal oscillator. If I see from the pictures correctly, you drive the LED via a single wire coming
from the single layer coil, right?  Did you connect the single wire to the back plate of the LED board?
Would you tell what is the type of the LED board or lamp? (make, power). If you happen to have a second such LED lamp,
then could you drive it with a known DC power to get a similar brightness the oscillator provides?
Thanks, Gyula

Lidmotor

Slider---I might go out tonight and stick a flashlight in the ground to honor the guy.  Tesla---born July 10, 1856

erfandl

Quote from: gyulasun on July 10, 2018, 01:49:47 PM
Hi Erfandl,

Good job with the crystal oscillator. If I see from the pictures correctly, you drive the LED via a single wire coming
from the single layer coil, right?  Did you connect the single wire to the back plate of the LED board?
Would you tell what is the type of the LED board or lamp? (make, power). If you happen to have a second such LED lamp,
then could you drive it with a known DC power to get a similar brightness the oscillator provides?
Thanks, Gyula
thanks for reply. yes the LED drived with single wire. the wire is connected to diodes not back plate. I think its 7 watt LED ( I don't know voltage maybe 120 volt ? ). I cant remember model of the bulb
the brightness is go higher when I connect the DC DC boost converter heat sync to a big aluminum heat sync.


itsu

Quote from: gyulasun on July 10, 2018, 01:39:11 PM
Hi Itsu,

Yes, the 5050 LED chip is designed for the 60 mA forward current and 3.1 - 3.4 V forward voltage and this roughly
gives 0.2 W power (each chip includes 3 LEDs in parallel with 20 mA current for each LED).  The 0.5 W version in this
chip family is labeled as 5054, so it is already a different type.The converter you show very likely provides a constant
current drive for the 3 LED boards in the lamp and I think the 3 boards are in series connection.
This way the constant current is 120 mA and the total voltage should be then 3 times the 23 V = 69 V DC,
this gives roughly 8.3 W power what the converter should provide.
Assuming a normal 90 % efficiency for such converter, the mains input power should be around 9.1 W into the converter.
Now what would be interesting is to feed a single such LED board from about 23 VDC source to let 60 mA current
flow and see the brightness as a reference for the oscillator...   8)
Gyula

Gyula,

i can measure that the 3 outputs on the circuit board to the 3 led boards are parallel.
So i believe all 3 led boards get normally around 23V.

For comparison on the oscillator driven board (50mA) and a PS (20 - 23V @ 67 - 160mA) driven board see the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNdXiOw2Sbs

Itsu