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A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.

Started by ageofmagnetizm, May 19, 2017, 08:07:51 PM

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ageofmagnetizm


5. Testing with loads.


In respond to numerous suggestions within various discussions - I release more information about testing of AF PMG-MMEIR 4E8M.
The generator was tested with its four 450 ohms coils connected in single electrical circuit with multimeter and various loads, where circuits were measured to know values of total electrical resistance and AC voltage generating by 8 magnets rotor running by 16.2 watt drive motor switched on 1400 RPM.
Main article has been updated with new report:


https://sites.google.com/site/ageofmagnetizm/home/magnetomechanics/hyperefficient-generator


Video fo testing:


https://youtu.be/SzlJ6LDgQJ4



short video where AF PMG-MMEIR 4E8M is being tested with 250 ohms thermoelectric resistor, and then video is paused and continue with testing of generator connected with 60 ohms electrical inductor, and paused and continue with testing of generator with no load connectet to circuit. During three tests multimeter display same >260 AC voltage what is obvious manifestation of expected Zero Magnetomotive Feedback and enexpectually discovered Hyperefficiency where output electric power is many time greater than mechanical input power of drive motor.
Shall continue...


By Taras Leskiv.


gyulasun

Hi ageofmagnetizm,

I would like you to do a test if you do not mind? See the attached picture I took from your video
to show how I think.

The upper part shows your Test 3 from the video when you show the generator output coil
has about the 450 Ohm wire resistance (well, 453 Ohm or so, no problem). 

In the lower picture I show you how I would like you to connect the thermoelectric resistor to the
generator output coil, I used two yellow lines as wire connections, ok?

If you do not mind to make a short, say 2 minute long video, please show first what Ohm value
your DMM shows in the same 2000 Ohm measurement range.  Then please do not change the resistor
connections but just switch the meter to AC 750 V range and start the drill motor and show what AC voltage
is coming out from the generator coil, ok?

In your Test 3 (at the end of the video) the AC voltmeter showed 260 V or so output voltage from the generator
and it would be very good to see the output voltage in this Test 4 I suggest you to do.

Thanks, Gyula

ageofmagnetizm

There are two reasons I'm posting here:
1. To learn about similar experiments and hopefully replications of similar constructions, at least such simle as I have discussed at the beginning of this post;
2.and the second reason is to learn oppinions and suggestions about testing, constructions and a theory of the processes.


About suggestion on the resistor: this one is recicled from immersion water heater which internal insulation is burned through hence one terminal is connected to resistor wire and other to the place of burn-through external cover. I new that readers will have chance to think that there is my mistake, but count that multimeter does not interpretate a load which can be a sweet drink, or silver bullet or even dead rat- multimeter is rationally doing measurement and dislaying resistance between its terminals - without interpretations. I did many similar measurements with other resistores and results are very similar-there is nothing like dramatic drop of voltage because that magnetic fields of coils of stator do not decelerate rotor and same rpm cause same freequency causing same voltage. Additionally saying- when resistance of thermoresistor is being measured then dc  current from multimeter flows from resistor causing its warming and proportional increase of electrical resistance, and ac current from generator does the same and after short measuring of ac current - measurements of resistance displays its higher values, this also can be filmend and taken into calculations (perhapse for educational or entertaining channels).


About ends of running of rotor: drill has button allowing to operate rpm from min. till max. Hence I try to push and release button gently for sake of protection of structures from mechanical overstressing, it also allow to tune rpms by watchin display of multimeter and holding button so that slower rotor will induce desirable voltage but during main phase of testing I hold button on max., some times I run rotor for 5, 10, 15 etc minutes but its too noizy and nothing special to be demonstrated on videos ( other then entertaining videos, perhaps).


Occationally I thank you Gyula, for previous comments and useful links which others can read too.
Hope that I have dissolved many doubts and others will roll up sleaves and look on shelfs for stuff which can be recicled for replication, there is nothing special and cheap multimeter will suffice.


Other wise keep asking, adviceing, suggestig, even teaching. Why not?

gyulasun

Hi ageofmagnetizm,

Thanks for the answers, I will comment them tomorrow or later on if you do not mind.

From your earlier videos one can see you have got two identical multimeters, their type is DT 830D
if I can see them correctly.

I would like you to do a measurement with them on each other.  Please set the range switch
on one of the DMMs to the 2000 kOhm position and measure the resistance between the COM
(black) input and the V-Ohm-mA (red) input on the other DMM which is set to AC 750V.
Then please swap the meters and do the same measurement on the input of the first DMM.

I can show you my test on such measurement, see the photo below. I have the same brand DMM
like you have, its type is M-830B and its specifications are most likely the same. You can see that
my bigger DMM, DT9205B measures 1.227 MegaOhm resistance (set to the 2 MegaOhm position) between
the inputs of the M-830B which I set to AC 600V position. I would assume your DT830D would have similar
resistance around the 1 MegaOhm values.
I checked my M-830B meter in DC 600V position too and it has 992 kOhm resistance.
(I can explain why the AC 600 V position is measured to have a higher resistance versus the DC 600 V if desired.)

Thanks
Gyula

ageofmagnetizm

I have three of those cheap testers, 've spend 10 EUR and have no fear to burn 'm if experiments go unpredictably bad.Have arranged testing and validation at Scientific Research Laboratory, later this month, hope they'll allow me to make some pictures and videos of testing for privat use and I'll upload more.


If you can explain your multimeters problem in more simple and direct manner, please?