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Is the KICK a shockwave ?

Started by hartiberlin, November 22, 2006, 07:36:47 PM

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hartiberlin

Have a look at this:
http://www.foxvalleykart.com/timing1.html

There is an interesting passage which says:

"Think of it This way; if you've ever closed a water faucet real fast, you sometimes get a "shock wave" in the water pipes. They call it "water hammer" and it makes a noise like someone banging once on the water pipe. Sometimes it happens when the washing machine is running and one of its valves closes real fast. Anyway, the same thing can happen, more or less, to electrical current flowing through an inductor. If the current flowing to the ground in the primary circuit of the ignition system is suddenly stopped because the circuit is broken, the current "bounces" back. In electrical circles it's called "inductive fly-back" and it's what creates the voltage spike that the the coil then steps up to enough voltage to jump the sparkplug gap."

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So can this be a way to generate these kicks inside a coil by generating something like a shockwave inside a coil
and if the shockwave is in resonance with the mechanical size of the coil, this might get positive feedback ?

How do we generate a shockwave inside a coil like a waterhammer effect in a waterpipe ??

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hartiberlin

I still remember the guy Schaefer building a steam engine
on the waterhammer effect.

http://www.rexresearch.com/schaeffe/schaeffe.htm


It is probably the same as the Griggs Hydrosonic pump effect.
Now we have to apply this to electrical current.
How do we produce these shockwaves over there in coils ?

Is a big Newman coil with its fast mechanical on-off switching a shockwave generator ?
When Newman did put 10.000 Volts DC via a mechanical fast switch onto
a very big coil, he could light up all sorts of neon bulbs around it from the
immense RF bursts generated. I still have the old videos from the 1980s...!

Maybe Steven Mark has found an electronically way to do it without
mechanical switching ?
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Grumpy

exactly

the shockwave is in the field around the coil due to the sudden collapse

waves coming together will cancel, add, pass by out of phase

Edit: Write this down:

immagine two waves coming in opposite direction - slam together - rapid increase in field - waves pass - cavitation of field with resulting shockwave - no switching - very clever!!![/b]

also see my other posts in the other TPU threads.

EDIT:

see here: http://www.kettering.edu/~drussell/Demos/superposition/superposition.html

Field will rise and collapse very quickly - kick is proportional to speed of field change - must have air core or will dampen.

MUST have very accurate frequency for control.

More later...
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hartiberlin

So how could this open double ring TPU then be built?
Maybe 4 coils in series pulses on each end with a pulse, so pulses collide in the center
and then then 2 magnets might deflect the 90 degrees outputed shockwaves ( RF bursts)
letting them run in circles like electrons deflected by a helmholtz coil in a vacuum tube ?
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Grumpy

Stephan,

Many ways to look at it.  Start with simple tests. 

Signals on one wire or two wires?  With speaker wire or electric cord - two wires parallel - signals can pass in opposite direction - each induces field in other opposite to itself - can you time correctly to have signals combine like superpositioned waves?  Start with vry accurate frequency and phase shift until you get superposition .  Use coil around the two wires to detect.

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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