Gear pump and magnets

[Low-Q]

Hi there,


In which direction is the magnets polarized?
Radially
Along circumference
Along rotor axis


Vidar

                   appropriate use : for the needed use the right magnetic force
       ( the Flynn brothers searched at first with neodymium and returned to C8/5 ferrit magnets)
       "the crux" with permanent magnets ( fix force) has the electro magnets(variable force) as solution (or mixed use)

       more/less twenty years before I reed about this publication and saw the positive and negative functions from the device:
      https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=4033061A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19920423&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

      it is ever worthfull to also read cited and citing documents,often you will find estatal(f.e ESA,NASA) and great companies their employees   
      working forward on private developper and inventor their basic finds

     think modular(cascading) : Ernie Byron Esters
     https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=us&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=esters&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

[lancaIV]

                         " permanent magnetic force device negativ function" : not universal = ccw and or cw
                              Your question,low-Q, depends from your/the operative direction wish :
                           think about the difference between DC-motor (ccw and cw possible)and AC-motor (ccw or cw) use

[Low-Q]

Ok. So direction is depending on the direction of polarity.
I have one more thought:
After analyzing the design, at 12 o'clock it would not be possible to determine which direction the rotor will go. When the rotor is forced ccw it will run ccw for a while, guessing a half cycle, and vica verca.
The magnets in the rotor is trying to find equilibrium through the 14 inner iron pieces and the 13 outer ones. At 6 o'clock the pieces starts to line up again, and again the rotor can't decide where to go, ccw or cw.


I have done a simulation on a very similar design in FEMM a few years ago. There is ccw torque ona half cycle, and cw torque the other half which adds up in zero torque in one complete cycle.
Another issue is that the polarization did not have any influence in the result. 0 torque in total.


Do you have any thoughts about this?

                         " permanent jmagnetic force device negativ function" : not universal = ccw and or cw
                              Your question,low-Q, depends from your/the operative direction wish :
                           think about the difference between DC-motor (ccw and cw possible)and AC-motor (ccw or cw) use

[lancaIV]

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/qedynmnu.htm
especially:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/2magpup.htm
solution: kineto-mechanical "spiral(centrifugal/centipetal)" or electro magnetic pulse device


amplified magnetic force : from Hallbach to Ronbach array
https://www.bing.com/search?q=sankar+pat+patent&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN
f.e. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2011/0241349.html


similar Flynn Research Group  http://www.rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm  developments
https://web.archive.org/web/20040505174215/http://flynnresearch.net/
https://web.archive.org/web/20040405085515/http://flynnresearch.net:80/Table_of_Contents.htm
http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/charles-j-flynn/

http://geminielectricmotor.com/About%20the%20Gemini%20Technology.htm


                              http://www.rexresearch.com/flynn/Ppfigure3.gif
                              and the electric conduction with:
                              http://www.google.com/patents/US7411363


                         http://www.overunity.com/12081/jackh-where-are-you/
http://overunity.com/2386/controller-circuit-for-hilden-brandt-motor-needed/
                   https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=jack+hildenbrand&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search


Sincerely
              OCWL

[Low-Q]

Hi there,


I took a look at the second link. The magnets with opposing poles. The difference in force head on vs sliding in.
The peak forces are different, but the average force is exactly the same.
Try to lift a 1 ton car 10cm straight up. You can't.
Roll that car up a ramp while spending 20m distance to roll it up 10cm. That's fine.
My point is, when sliding the magnets sideways, you spend more distance around the peak force.


The example of the crankshaft:
When the piston like magnet moves up as the sliding magnet approaches, that magnet will under load take time to rise. This increase the initial force. When the sliding magnet leaves, it leaves with less repulsion because the loaded piston magnet needs time to fall down.


That means you need input energy that corresponds 100% with the load.
No overunity.


The other google search links takes too much time to search through.


Vidar