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The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....

Started by Magluvin, October 25, 2017, 07:14:42 AM

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Magluvin

Quote from: MileHigh on October 29, 2017, 11:28:04 PM
Like I predicted, a SUPER-FAIL!!!!

You haven't shown anything except more show and don't tell, you haven't explained anything. If you sniffed out the secondary discharge, you would find no evidence of resonance whatsoever.

Its funny. there are explanations on the net that agree with me.  Now show me any that agree with your plasma plasma plasma, then we will talk.

There, I approved your post. You complained in pm to the others about it.  I been gone what, 30min and you try to make it look like I dont approve your posts. Dude Im not here all day like you. So ya know what, since im done on my end, you wait till stefan approves your posts if you want them when Im not here.

Mags


Magluvin

Hey Brad

Dont know if you have seen last nights vid.  It shows the switch on spark you say there is. The only really difference in the circuit is the addition of the ballast resistor and the relay as contacts instead of the knife switches of my first vids.  There was never a closed switch spark then.  But here I only get it when the cap is connected, not when the cap us removed. Am I doing something wrong here? TK keeps talking about dwell in pm. Might that be the case here? I can adjust the timing of the relay to fit given specs at say and idle rpm time frame to try.  Like during a 60deg rotation they could be set up at 32deg closed and 28deg open...If you think that may help figure out this particular issue, but I do not think thats it thus far.

I sorry for the other day..  With all that i have to deal with from MH, it all seemed like you were coming to counter my views also, and it just lit me up. lol  From the mysterious approvals of Mhs posts that I nor Grum had done, and I could only imagine it was you, then you posting your post that caboggled me as I really didnt think the closed contact spark could occur.  I have other vids using this same coil that i have used off and on for years now, and never seen it.  So It did seem like it was made up.. I even tried it before I took apart the knife switch circuit and could not get it to happen..  I cant say yet that the ballast resistor is the key yet. Going to remove that today to see.   

And with the cap in the circuit across the switch(is the only time I can produce the spark switch closed) I cannot see how it would help like you explain to prevent the closed spark.  Can you help me out with understanding what you mean there? 

Im not interested in how it has to do with the resonance part, I just want to know for me because Im getting the spark with the cap and not without the cap as you seem to explain it would happen.. So again, maybe there is something wrong with how Im doing it and if you could help figure it out that would be cool.

Mags











norman6538

I want to make 2 point.
I. if the spark occurs when the points close then wouldn't it mess up the timing and cause preignition?
I think a weak spark might occur but like trying to start a small engine with a rope - pull it slowly
and it will never start cause the spark is too weak to make it fire.

2.The Tesla circuit is so clever but thinking ahead is there something that we could do with the plasma
that would give us something else that is desireable.

Bruce Perreault once told us to collect some power from a spark gap without a wire connection and we did.
A coil near that plasma will collect power in a collection capacitor.....Each time it sparks it will add more to the
capacitor if it has a diode to keep it there.

But we got stuck there and did not know where to go with that.
So I post that for some creative ideas.

Norman

Magluvin

This vid below shows a cap discharge into the primary of this coil, you have seen here in my vids, back just about 7 years ago.
Im using a neon driver circuit from an old scanner printer, that now a days use leds, to charge the cap via an AV plug diode config that charges the cap via only 1 wire or to say 1 actual conductor from 1 lead of the secondary of the neon driver circuit.

The cap gets charged to 250v and the Sidac device works like a spark gap and breaks down at 250v and wont stop the current flow till the current gets to some minimum then the sidac opens.  So no resonance here, just showing the fact that the tiny cap Im using in this vid below gets to 250v it discharges into the primary and gives a very nice spark..   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EP8M4YcGio&t=3s

So why would it be SO hard for MH to believe that the cap in the ign circuit in this thread could not produce the longer stronger, visibly multiple arc spark when the cap and coil are bouncing around, what was it, 450v to start at the beginning of the ring down?  I believe it. Have since before this thread was started. I have no reasons not to believe it..  Look at that long spark in this vid at only 250v and only allowed to discharge 1 time due to the properties of the sidac.

Later in the vid I add some capacitance between the other open end of the drivers HV secondary and just the can of the spark coil and the sparks come faster....

Anyway, Just thought Id bring that up. It helps to understand my reasoning for my claim.

Mags

Magluvin

Someone posted a comment on my vid i posted here last night and I replied, but today I cant see the replies.. Says there is 2 of them. Cant even see them on my phone browser logged in or not. Maybe be just a day of the glitches

Strange..

mags