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Overunity Machines Forum



Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: tinman on November 16, 2017, 11:06:41 PM
That was fast Grum lol.

Now we have all the specs,there cant be any argument about it not being an exact replication.

Trying to find soft iron bolts is turning out to be a challenge.
Soft steel -no problem. Soft iron-big problem.
May have to make some from some soft iron rod.


Brad

But what thread will you put on them? What head? What grip length, what threaded portion? Matching soft iron nuts, or what? Do you know the thread spec of Bedini's soft iron bolts?  There's a big difference between M6 and 3/8-16. Or hex head vs. socket-head capscrews. Etc.

Wrong thread or head = inexact replication. Therefore doomed to fail.

Right?


TinselKoala

Quote from: Magsie...er...MrMags on November 16, 2017, 11:33:02 PM
Perhaps 12kv is much more believable figure than 12kw. 

It should be a lot easier to figure out how to get 12kv from the machine you see than 12kw. ;)

Set the whole bedini machine next to a 12kw motor or gen. What would you think then?

Mags

Perhaps it is. But then it becomes much less remarkable, no? After all I can produce 12 kV with a device the size of a golf ball or even smaller. And a big heavy "energizer" machine with most of that in the flywheel weight should certainly have no problem making 12 kV for ten minutes without running down the batteries or even producing a noticeable decrease in flywheel speed. 

So does the remarkable claim for the Big Bedini just boil down to a typo, where some reporter mistakenly put 12 kW when actually should have put 12 kV?

I mean, people do make mistakes now and then, don't they Wa...er... Mags?


Magluvin

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 16, 2017, 11:43:18 PM
But what thread will you put on them? What head? What grip length, what threaded portion? Matching soft iron nuts, or what? Do you know the thread spec of Bedini's soft iron bolts?  There's a big difference between M6 and 3/8-16. Or hex head vs. socket-head capscrews. Etc.

Wrong thread or head = inexact replication. Therefore doomed to fail.

Right?

Perhaps you should try a bunch of different ones and see if there is a difference.  ;)

Perhaps your post is just a knock on me and my thorough replication posts and there actually wouldnt be much if any noticeable differences that would matter. ;)

Whatever Al

Mags

TinselKoala

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4d8PHDG4yE

Seriously, the issue of how "exact" to get during a replication is a gnarly one. The persons skilled in the art should be able to tell what is truly important and what is not, or would be interested in finding out through experiment as you suggest. Soft iron bolts? Right there one becomes suspicious because a soft iron bolt is about as useful as spaghetti suspenders or a jello frisbee. But OK, we've all encountered less-than-Grade 3 crap that breaks or strips when you put any torque on it. And how could thread pitch possibly matter, one asks oneself. But you can bet your bippy that, should TinMan's or anyone else's "exact replication" fail to perform as claimed, someone from the Church of Bedini will claim that the replication wasn't exact enough. We've all seen this happen many times. Even though those claimants and complainants cannot do it themselves, they still think they can tell other people how to do it.