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Overunity Machines Forum



Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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Void

Quote from: Grumage on November 17, 2017, 12:17:49 PM
Hi Jeg.
This is one of the areas of conjecture, I'm rather lucky as I have many different cast Iron flywheels to choose from. But what size/weight, 20 Lbs is quite a mass? Are we looking to just carry the drive motor over the off period of the commutator? Would 14 Lbs be ok?
Now whilst we're in " contemplation mode "  :)
How many previous tinkerers actually used a " wet " Lead acid battery for the device. I know I didn't. Could there be a difference at the " Ionic " level? It's the Ionic reversal that was supposed to be the MO according to what I've read.
Cheers Graham.

Hi Grumage, Jeg.  I have been reading up on it in the last week, and I don't recall coming across
anything where Bedini stated anything specific in regards to the flywheel size.  As near as I can
tell, you want a flywheel that is big enough to keep everything up to speed during the 'time windows'
where the motor is off and the cap bank is discharging into the battery. Whether there is any advantage
to having an even larger flywheel can probably only be determined by experimentation at this point.
I have attached a blurry photo taken from 'Bedini's Free Energy Generator' 1984 PDF in case it helps. :)

Since Bedini seems to have indicated that his solid state battery pulsing chargers also have a
COP > 1, I am going to try to put these general battery pulsing principles that are used in various Bedini
setups to the test, since it is quite simple to setup. I have been wondering why Bedini spent so
many years on motor/generator setups rather than just focusing on pulsing batteries with simpler soild
state circuits. Maybe rotating a mass adds some 'gain' into the equation, or maybe there are other reasons,
but I haven't come across anything specific yet as to why Bedini focused so much on motor/generators.

All the best...


Jeg

Void, Grum
Thanks for the help, just to mention that in flywheels diameter comes first and weight is after as of an importancy.
In the meanwhile, I found a good source for cheap rotors of many different sizes.

https://www.google.gr/search?q=cutting+wheels&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi9-cuuscbXAhWEvRoKHcfeCUMQ_AUICigB&biw=1093&bih=602&dpr=1.25

citfta

Quote from: Jeg on November 17, 2017, 11:42:59 AM
I wonder if transformer laminates are more appropriate (as I have many of them).
I also salvaged an electric screwdriver and took out its 18V 1800RPM motor. I'll report its performance even I have spotted an old AC universal one. Looks like it can be converted for dc input operation. 

My question guys is what are you going to use as for the heavy iron disk? Is anything other except of a car that can be salvaged??

Hi Jeg,

Universal means the motor can run on either AC or DC.  There is no conversion needed.

Depending on how big you want the flywheel to be you can probably salvage one from a small engine like from a lawn and garden tractor.  This should give you something in the range of 20 t0 30 pounds depending on the size of the engine.  Check your local small engine repair shops.  They will probably give you a few to experiment with as they usually have several dozen junk engines laying around.

Carroll

Jeg

 Cool Carol thanks!!! I'll search for it probably tomorrow.

About the motor i was thinking to open it and connect the field coils in series. Do you think that they are already in series? First build with motors and have some difficulties to locate and gather everything.

About the flywheel again I see two options. First is to mount the flywheel on the same axis as the rotor. But I don't feel safe when thinking a mass of that size to rotate so fast. Second option is to mount it in separate axis and divide the rotations number, but more complicated. What is your opinion on this?

Jeg

Quote from: Void on November 17, 2017, 02:09:18 PM
I have been wondering why Bedini spent so
many years on motor/generator setups rather than just focusing on pulsing batteries with simpler soild
state circuits. Maybe rotating a mass adds some 'gain' into the equation, or maybe there are other reasons,
but I haven't come across anything specific yet as to why Bedini focused so much on motor/generators.

Never played with Bedini ideas. What triggered me with this replication is that it combines  many forms of energy, and looks possible to transform them in a constructive way so to counteract the Lenz effect.