Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[gyulasun]

Luc,

It would be good to read first what exactly Rick means on a COP > 1 performance, for instance ? How he defines COP.  He mentions work done which sounds good for a start...

Gyula

[rickfriedrich]

Luc,
Like I wrote: "depending on how you define efficiency, COP, etc." The context I am speaking here is in using two different forms of energy output. Mechanical and electrical. This is at a really basic level here.
So if you can show that then why haven't you? I thought that is what you guys were after? Am I missing something here Luc?
If you believe a video can prove OU over the internet then you are naïve and expect people to be as well. Now a video can show people how to prove it to themselves, but you cannot prove the video is genuine, not altered, or that the environment is not manipulated, etc.
If these guys are the best then you don't know anyone. They have revealed basic level knowledge and zero knowledge about nonlinear science. Maybe they are great with linear systems but they assume that is everything.
I have supported my claims but you guys just ignore them. Now these guys claims are unsupported. Why is it that only I am required to support claims. And since when is anyone required to do anything here or online? I mean, this is only an information sharing place. You guys have made into an inquisition. It's ridiculous.  Everyone repeats their claims and that is fine. It's just that I have supported them. I have shared the theory right from the top electrical pioneers and the top today. I have also demonstrated these things to thousands of people in the real world. I have also shown way more how to do these things for themselves. That is all the support possible. But you guys have showed zero for your claims and then just resort to personal attacks. These guys well even deny what they just wrote a few posts back! It shows a manifest conspiracy right here with these guys you so admire.

I don't know what Aaron has. He was a joke. But he knows how to make money. I understand why people are so made. I have more reason than all of you put together to be upset with him. Yet I don't reject everything he said or has done because of that. There is a lot of useful information for Dollard and I appreciate that. I have no idea their arrangements as I was never involved, and I don't know anything about all the drama with other people. I'm just saying this because I see manifest over-reaction prejudice. At least on his forum people are open to OU. Here most of the people are manifestly hostile to it. They argue against the essential OU processes while refusing to justify their claims. They will not give the basis or foundation for their theory of electromagnetism. I have pointed them to Faraday and Maxwell but they ignore that foundational testimony. I have point to Tesla, Kron, Barrett and still nothing. I could list hundreds more at the very top. This is not name dropping either. It is quoting them in the essential points. Zero response. Silence as if I never wrote it. Then I show some super basic things and all I get is circle reasoning that says they are right because they are right. Never any explanation. The only one that tried was G. And that was just a diversion from the point at hand. That is why I realize something else is going on here as it has been from the beginning of this forum. There have always been extremely hostile forces here at play to keep this forum from actually being about OU. It is about disproving OU and attacking people. You guys are not serious at all. Some are, but they just get shot down. You guys don't even give people a chance. You are just mean people. But there is something more than that. Naturally there are trillions of dollars at stake in this as everyone knows, so naturally there is some money spent to hire people to do this. And this is why they get so upset when they fail to do their disinfor job...

You have made a big huff-puff about nothing Luc. You misunderstand my point. I really don't care about how much it takes to make a self-runner. I made an Newman/Window motor, actually 2 or 3 self-run with very little output. No big deal. I showed these many years ago. I made magnet motors as well. So I understand your point. Don't miss my point. And get upset about things that really matter.

I have long proved my claims. You also have testimony that you disregard that you know very well. I just confirmed that. If you don't believe me then move on. It is that simple. I am just sharing information. I have no interest in proving something to a hostile person, and being foolish in thinking that something like this can be proven over the internet. That is a real joke. Shows how childish you people are.

Good luck on getting these guys to drop this. It is their job to suppress it. If it was all just a joke and I had nothing, then they all would have just made a few statements and moved on. But they all know it is real, that is very obvious. What the specific motives are only they know. The words tell a lot however.

Quote from: rickfriedrich on August 14, 2019, 05:49:18 PM
"These guys will never admit to anything being OU unless it is self-running, which means one would have to have 2 times the work done than normal (depending on how you define efficiency, COP, etc.). "

Luc writes:
Sorry Rick but that is incorrect!... you do not need twice the output to self loop a device.
All you need is isolation between input and output and the output power only needs to be 1% over the input power.
If those conditions can be continuously maintained (no fluctuations) then that is enough to sustain self loop conditions.

If you don't believe me just say so and I will prove you wrong and show you how it's done. I will even demonstrate it without any doubt in a way you say it is not possible by making a video demo on the internet.

You have had advice from the best of real Experimenters that I know of, like Tinsel Koala, Itsu, Guyla, Partzman, TinMan, CITFTA and you still keep repeating unsupported claims we have all heard of and tested in the past from the supposable knowers of the secrets which you can buy from guys like Aaron just to find in the end they really have nothing.

So if you want to validate your argument stop arguing and put out the proof just like I'm willing to do to prove you wrong about needing twice the output power to self loop.
However, know this is a two way exchange, so if you're dead set on never providing any proof to your claims then it's clear you have nothing like Aaron and have lost this ridiculously long for nothing argument.
So if Rick is not willing to work in a two way exchange, then I ask all researchers to stop wasting time in this topic unless you have real proof to share and not just words.

Regards
Luc

[seychelles]

THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF FREE ENERGY IS EFFICIENCY AND ONE NEED TO KNOW
WHERE THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM.
https://newatlas.com/linear-labs-hunstable-electric-motor/60974/

[rickfriedrich]

Chet,
I just got off the phone with the customer who is responsible for that Lab and I was right about what I said, and you are not. You are speaking to a middleman who was not there for this and also is mistaken about several things.
Your statements are misleading as I wrote:

1. They didn't only produce loads for 1.5 months.
2. The whole time they conditioned the batteries for three months they loaded them down to 10V. That was real energy the whole time. Now I just told them that if they had talked to me about it, and not Bedini who misled them, that if they had discharged them down to 1 or 0 volts it would have been a whole lot faster.
3. These batteries had the negative energy phenomena. Such a battery was shown to this middleman.
4. The customer did need a massive system so that setup was not big enough. The customer didn't think of the system so negatively as the "nuisance" word implies. He was looking for a system without batteries. And that is fair enough. But it did work just as expected. He just wasn't aware of anything more than the basic system. If I had been in contact at the time I would have shared the things I have now shared with him.

So it's hearsay when the Lab tells you they have the exact results I was talking about. But it would not be hearsay if the Lab reported negative results. Nice double standard. Just like everything on this thread.

This very experience once again proves my point. Information from a Lab conveyed to people on this thread gets changed to show something worse than what was experienced. And this was the Lab recommended to verify these things with! This is why the whole OUR thing is a joke. You can't trust anyone else to verify something. Even when the Lab reports something people can change it. But the Lab can be paid to make it not work. Or they can make a mistake as well. This happens all the time. So again it is established:


POINTS HAVING BEEN PROVEN SINCE JUNE 2019:
1. OU Claims and Disproof OU Claims Cannot be Proven Over Video, Pictures, and Words Over the Internet. People Can Only do Science and Prove Truths of Demonstration to Themselves In The Real World.
2. Forums Can Only Provide Information to Other People which Needs Personal Verification Unless it is Self-evident.
3. Free Energy and Over Unity Do Not Imply Self-running or Self-looping, while the Inverse is True.

  I called the lab ..I find out about the motors, that you have them now or sold them ...? I asked about the motors and how they worked and what they did , would seem the 1 1/2 months was all  they were ever used for and it was felt The batteries were quite a nuisance .
So The machines were sitting there collecting dust .
No idea what all that other stuff you wrote is about ??
I posted hear what I was told  I did ask permission first before I posted here
I did not add about the 45 W solar panel that was also on the job site
But I posted what I was told ...2000Watt output for 1 1/2 months The machine and batteries are on the job all day and the machine charge the batteries at night
And yes the man was happy to get the power on and just use electricity to run the job and be done with back-and-forth machine transportation every day
I thought you would be very happy with this ...the only problem is it was hearsay

[SeaMonkey]

It would appear that Rick has dug himself into a hole and is
trying desperately to defend his hole with rash accusations.

It's behavior we see time and time again with those who
claim to have found real overunity.

Matt Jones, Dave Bowlin and now Rick Freidrich are singing
the same refrain which goes something like this:

"My science is good, it's all of those who question
my claims who haven't the ability to see the greatness
of what I've accomplished!!  They're bad people who are
against Real Science and who are determined to prevent
the path to overunity being realized by anybody!!"

If those who are making their premature claims of overunity
would meticulously abide by the Scientific Method in establishing
their "proofs," without letting their egos get in the way, they'd
surely see the folly of what they are doing.

Or, perhaps not.  Those who are deceived often resort to
hostile ugliness to defend their error.

When and if Real Overunity or Free Energy in any electrical
circuit or device is actually discovered, the phenomenon
should speak for itself in Truth.  The Overunity should be
foolproof rather than capricious;  always available rather
than sometimes it happens but usually not.

Those who claim to have found Overunity should be able
to show what its source is, how it is being harvested and
why it works.  So far, this has not been done conclusively
with any claim anywhere.  Apart from the obvious exceptions
of course, such as wind, solar, and water power.

While the free energy able to be made manifest by Daniel
Pomerleau is indeed real, it cannot be explained by Science
as we presently limit it.  It is energy that comes from a place
we are reluctant to consider.  It is being exploited, however,
in Secret Programs with the assistance of certain entities
whose existence is generally denied.

Disclosure is coming but not yet.  One day we will all know.