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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: a.king21 on May 09, 2019, 01:03:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdcwDCBoNY
You can find explanations from the maker of the video, Tortuga0303 in the Comments section under the video.  I collected the most relevant explanations:   
 
"it was a 11 volt signal generator with 50 ohm impedance. 12 volt bulb. this is an impedance matching trick" 

"A series LC acts as a short circuit at resonance, while a parallel LC acts like a huge impedance. "

"The bulbs take some  3v 300ma to light up. The input is 12v. Therefore it is possible that the input be say 12 v @ 75ma. Then through the impedance matching quality of the transformer, the output is reduced to 3v 300ma. power going in and out is the same, but one is of the correct quality to light the bulb and the other is not. "

"The bulbs need several hundred miliamps to light. Below this threshold they are dim if not lit at all.
The first bulb has going through it 12v, but few miliamps making it dim. The second bulb is impedance matched bringing the 12 v down, and the amperage up, therefore lighting the second bulb. All the power is going through the first bulb, but in a form which is not suitable for its incandescence. "

"I think you will find this is not more power out than in. This is because you are using a resistive load, and when all things are considered, the last thing you want to add into the equation is resistance. But bubs make for good visuals. This is simply a place to start to learn the basics.-"

"people often ask the specifics, however there is no magic frequency. It is all dependent on the physical parameters, i.e. inductance and capacitance. What you do need to know is that they are tuned to the SAME frequency, driven at square wave. If they were driven with sine wave, you would see the EXACT same form on the ol O-scope, pure sine wave, due to being run at resonance. Driving voltage was 11 volts."

This says it all.  Nice demo for impedance matching and no overunitiy. 

Gyula

gyulasun

Quote from: benfr on May 09, 2019, 04:34:50 AM
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it is also possible to bring an oscillator in the game to see wonderful waveforms show what it does look like to observe directly energy multiplication.

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From Rick Friedrich's Resonant Induction Coupler Kit, exercice 1.b.
Hi benfr,
Please understand the following comment from Tortuga0303, the maker of the video a.king referred to:

"The bulbs take some  3v 300ma to light up. The input is 12v. Therefore it is possible that the input be say 12 v @ 75ma. Then through the impedance matching quality of the transformer, the output is reduced to 3v 300ma. power going in and out is the same,  but one is of the correct quality to light the bulb and the other is not. "   
 
So there is no energy multiplication happening.  In fact, there is no more output power in the secondary LC circuits than what was input to the primary (the transmitter) coil / circuit.  Itsu's measurements clearly showed the facts.
Gyula

benfr

Quote from: gyulasun on May 09, 2019, 06:12:55 AM
Hi benfr,
Please understand the following comment from Tortuga0303, the maker of the video a.king referred to:

"The bulbs take some  3v 300ma to light up. The input is 12v. Therefore it is possible that the input be say 12 v @ 75ma. Then through the impedance matching quality of the transformer, the output is reduced to 3v 300ma. power going in and out is the same,  but one is of the correct quality to light the bulb and the other is not. "   
 
So there is no energy multiplication happening.  In fact, there is no more output power in the secondary LC circuits than what was input to the primary (the transmitter) coil / circuit.  Itsu's measurements clearly showed the facts.
Gyula

Hi Gyula, that video is interesting, I agree it does not show any OU as it is not demonstrating that. What is interesting is the "stealth" of frequency between the two coils, because it is a real door to understand more about resonance, the author makes reference to that when he quotes that the 2 coils are 'matched'. However, coil matching at resonance is a matter that is not explored in the video, in an explicit way, for it has several dimensions : wavelength, capacitance, inductance, rate of change, disruptive discharge, and others.

When you say "..So there is no multiplication happening", indeed there is ! And this multiplication has no end if one desires to multiply the components producing that I described with the 3 series LC tanks  that are in series with each other.
Energy demultiplication can also be seen on an oscillocope, beyond lighting a 95 V 1.9 mA bulb (my NE2), or , a 4 V LED ; respectively from a 13V and a 1.x V input, as described in my most recent post.
There is no way you can deny energy amplification if you can show to light a LED or bulb with no change in the input and by the simple dial of the resonant frequency, and not lighting anymore with a discrete modification on the dial all other things being equal...

lancaIV

benfr : DC 3 Volt to 12 Volt = energy amplification, but does not indicate power amplification
           
            When you have " power amplification": which source becomes harvest ?
            When you are beside : your body waves emission ?
             

From the ambient ? ( Non / enclosed )Oxygen to Ozone ionising ,dehumidifying( Enthalpy gains) !                   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ioniser

benfr

Quote from: lancaIV on May 09, 2019, 07:14:37 AM
benfr : DC 3 Volt to 12 Volt = energy amplification, but does not indicate power amplification
           

Power and energy : those terms aren't coined properly. Are you saying that power as amperage ? energy as voltage ?

Quote from: lancaIV on May 09, 2019, 07:14:37 AM
           
            When you have " power amplification": which source becomes harvest ?
            When you are beside : your body waves emission ?
           
Please rephrase your questions, I do not understand.