Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[rickfriedrich]

A,
I should also say that this is one way Don shows to keep the input charged if you look in the book you will see the schematic. In that case you would make the coil the connecting wire to the oscillator. But when you learn the 1/4 wave relationships you will not need to go to such lengths. In the powerful or commercial setups you would start with having the L2 secondary tuned for maximum output and then either add this sort of appendage to the side to keep the input powered, or you would make another wavelength receiver out of the wire.

RICK  interesting development:  By intercepting the led on the satellite coil with a bridge rectifier I was able to get over 17 volts and 9 ma. This was enough to  the charge the gate driver battery. So the whole set up was stuck on 10.8 volts for hours. I also attached an earth ground to the negative terminal of the output of the bridge and it increased the output by 1/2 volt and approximately 0.4 ma .
I kept the led in the circuit for tuning purposes. Why the led doesn't blow beats me- (although I have had one go bang the other day) The frequency gen was powered separately.
The thing in the centre of some of some of the coils is a ferrite rod used for additional tuning purposes.  Another development of the RICK. (Resonance induction coupler kit)

So here you have a direct example of why EEs very rarely discover anything.  Everyone knows that an led needs about 3.7 volts. Everyone knows an led will blow at 6 volts. AND EVERYONE IS WRONG. Try it.lol
And yes it will power another 4 watt 12 volt bulb.  Figure that one out, lol

[popolibero]

Hi Rick,


I appreciate your long reply to Hoppy, and I appreciate you trying to explain how things really were. But I would appreciate even more if you could be more precise technically, else the confusion will go on forever.


1. I am not writing the following to contradict what you say about negative energy, and I DO understand the negative spikes with a fast change rate and that they are a trigger for converging a different form of energy to batteries, and that lower impedance in both, batteries and output wires help things a lot. BUT, if you keep saying that a) there is no current on the output, and b) that you can't charge a battery that's at a higher voltage than the primary you are not being precise and this keeps confusing people. Any DC-DC converter relies on buck-boost coil collapse (flyback) technology to convert lower to higher or higher to lower voltage, so charging a battery from another battery at any voltage is really not a special feature. Now about the current on the output, if you connect the scope to the switching device you see the typical h wave of an SG or the wave of a solid state oscillator. What we see below the zero line is the coil being powered from the primary battery, immediately followed by the neg. spike we see on the positive side on the scope (because of how we connect the scope) which results from the coil being switched off but not wanting to invert its current flow, immediately followed by the current starting to flow from the resulting collapsing magnetic field of the coil. So, depending on what we connect to the output we will see an according discharge of current also. If we discharge into a 12V battery the current discharge pulse will be almost as wide in time and amplitude (on the scope) as the power pulse, depending on coil resistance, device efficiency, SG or solid state, etc... If we discharge into a 48V battery we will see a much narrower discharge puls after the spike, because the discharging coil automatically adapts to the load voltage and in this case gives higher voltage but less current. This is just to be precise. There definitely is the negative spike which triggers another event we end up finding in the battery, but to say there is NO current and a battery should not charge is not right in my view. The amount of current can vary a lot depending on load voltage, tuning, etc... but there is some.


2. I am not a person of many words, but I like clarity and precision. I couldn't find a straight answer to Hoppy's question whether negative charging damages batteries or not. Would you suggest charging directly or use cap discharge? Also, on the output, would you suggest putting the batteries in series rather than in parallel (even if the impedance would be higher in series)?


3. To rotate negatively charged batteries, why not simply put a big capacitor across the input, since it converts to positive and is what inverters have on the input which we can use?


4. You said you've used SCR cap discharge triggered by a 1n4007 diode, that would dump the cap at 1V above the battery right? What cap size did you use mostly and what aprox. rate? I know it depends on many things. Do you recommend dumping a cap with a neon triggered SCR dump at 90V? I've built probably 40 or 50 variations of circuits from HV small caps to low voltage big caps and everything in between, so I'm kind of curious among all the confusion that's around what you would finally suggest as the best cap dump voltage from your experience.


5. I suppose you missed my post 643?


thanks,
Mario

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quote: "Is he selling a kit with parts mounted on nice "footboards" that will not operate correctly gathered together.
              Maybe the perpendicular way is the only way that cerates some good effects? "

I don't know Arne, i tried the satellite coils (and big coil) in all possible positions and combinations, but the "all vertical" yields the best results.

Itsu

Just wonder See pic 1!

Ricks directions pic 2

Regards Arne

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[Hoppy]

Hi Mario,
Good to hear from you. Nice description in item 1 on how energy is transferred.
As you well know, it takes very careful observation to see exactly what's happening with the energiser. I'm not sure that John fully understood its operation technically. If he did, he never explained it correctly and in detail to his followers.

Was not me who asked the question in item 2.

Regards Hoppy