Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[rickfriedrich]

Wow, finally! I know it is difficult for people to admit that but I am just trying to save everyone that pain.
Hey, talking is fine and necessary and fun. Throwing ideas is great and needed. We just have to avoid bar talk from becoming beliefs. We just can't have "more of the same".
There are too many videos for me to single out. What I did initially was print out everything that's available on Tesla and spread it out throughout my whole house while I was doing my book. I also had to transcribe some lectures so that I was also able to search everything for key words. I searched for "one wire" and related words. But this was only after I read everything very carefully so I got the broad context as well as the specific context. I have put many of those quotes in my kit book in the advanced section. So you don't need the book. Just read carefully over those first three lectures carefully. You may get bored at times and think the lengthy focus on bulbs is pointless, but there will be important things here and there. Remember that Tesla said later that he wanted to share more about Resonance but the attitudes prevented him from opening up. So that means there are only hints here and there. More than hints, all the important stuff is there if you have an eye for details and realize sometimes he only said something once. This is especially true in his patents. Of course the 1916 lawyer document is very important but you will find what you need in the first three lectures from 1891-1893. Notice all the one wire circuits (there are others in other places as well). Notice the position of the grounding(s), and these are air groundings indicated by the letter P. Notices especially and start here:

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1893-02-24.htm#impedance_phenomema

"Very high frequencies are of course not practicable with motors on account of the necessity of employing iron cores.  But one may use sudden discharges of low frequency and thus obtain certain advantages of high-frequency currents without rendering the iron core entirely incapable of following the changes and without entailing a very great expenditure of energy in the core.  I have found it quite practicable to operate with such low frequency disruptive discharges of condensers, alternating-current motors.  A certain class of such motors which I advanced a few years ago, which contain closed secondary circuits, will rotate quite vigorously when the discharges are directed through the exciting coils.  One reason that such a motor operates so well with these discharges is that the difference of phase between the primary and secondary currents is 90 degrees, which is generally not the case with harmonically rising and falling currents of low frequency.  It might not be without interest to show an experiment with a simple motor of this kind, inasmuch as it is commonly thought that disruptive discharges are unsuitable for such purposes.  ....  By observing certain elementary rules I have also found it practicable to operate ordinary series or shunt direct-current motors with such disruptive discharges, and this can be done with or without a return wire.

IMPEDANCE PHENOMENA

"Among the various current phenomena observed, perhaps the most interesting are those of impedance presented by conductors to currents varying at a rapid rate.  In my first paper before the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, I have described a few striking observations of this kind.  Thus I showed that when such currents or sudden discharges are passed through a thick metal bar there may be points on the bar only a few inches apart, which have a sufficient potential difference between them to maintain at bright incandescence an ordinary filament lamp.  I have also described the curious behavior of rarefied gas surrounding a conductor, due to such sudden rushes of current.  These phenomena have since been more carefully studied and one or two novel experiments of this kind are deemed of sufficient interest to be described here.
[See what is wrongly called Tesla Hairpin Circuit]
"Referring to Fig. 19a/183a, B and B1 are very stout copper bars connected at their lower ends to plates C and C1, respectively, of a condenser, the opposite plates of the latter being connected to the terminals of the secondary S of a high-tension transformer, the primary P of which is supplied with alternating currents from an ordinary low-frequency dynamo G or distribution circuit.  The condenser discharges through an adjustable gap d d as usual.  By establishing a rapid vibration it was found quite easy to perform the following curious experiment.  The bars B and B1 were joined at the top by a low-voltage lamp l3 a little lower was placed by means of clamps C C, a 50-volt lamp l2; and still lower another 100-volt lamp l1; and finally, at a certain distance below the latter lamp, an exhausted tube T. By carefully determining the positions of these devices it was found practicable to maintain them all at their proper illuminating power.  Yet they were all connected in multiple arc to the two stout copper bars and required widely different pressures.  This experiment requires of course some time for adjustment but is quite easily performed.
In Figs. 19b/183b and 19c/183c, two other experiments are illustrated which, unlike the previous experiment, do not require very careful adjustments.  In Fig. 19b/183b, two lamps, l1 and l2, the former a 100-volt and the latter a 50-volt are placed in certain positions as indicated, the 100-volt lamp being below the 50-volt lamp.  When the arc is playing at d d and the sudden discharges are passed through the bars B B1, the 50-volt lamp will, as a rule, burn brightly, or at least this result is easily secured, while the 100-volt lamp will burn very low or remain quite dark, Fig. 19b/183b.  Now the bars B B1 may be joined at the top by a thick cross bar B2 and it is quite easy to maintain the 100-volt lamp at full candle-power while the 50-volt lamp remains dark, Fig. 19c/183c.  These results, as I have pointed out previously, should not be considered to be due exactly to frequency but rather to the time rate of change which may be great, even with low frequencies.  A great many other results of the same kind, equally interesting, especially to those who are only used to manipulate steady currents, may be obtained and they afford precious clues in investigating the nature of electric currents.
"In the preceding experiments I have already had occasion to show some light phenomena and it would now be proper to study these in particular; but to make this investigation more complete I think it necessary to make first a few remarks on the subject of electrical resonance which has to be always observed in carrying out these experiments."
END TESLA QUOTE

The rest you'll just have to read in this context. You have to take away the point that the effect does not happen without the beneficial process, and therefore it is not a matter of volts and amps. Impulse is not DC, and these effects will not happen with regular processes of both impulsing and resonance. Out of resonance you will have some benefit with impulsing, as we show with the motor and the basic third stage process demonstrations. But with resonance and proper impedance matching you can multiply it out as you wish. And you can see more than fifty different Tesla one wire loaded circuits throughout his writings to show you your options. You can power any loads, resistive or reactive. It is only here and there where find with any of these big names that you can multiply out these processes as much as you want. It is always implied in the teaching if you study carefully. Even with Bedini I am not aware of anyone else having noticed what he said in that respect in DVD7 but my one student who ended up making the black box that did just that. Tesla made few remarks along those lines for his own reasons. Ultimately he was interested in selling power systems and trying to progress human evolution rather than trying to teach the individual how to have energy independence. It will take a good month to properly learn Tesla on these points because we have to unlearn while we expand/open our minds.

Rick,

You are right. It is difficult or impossible to prove anything to anyone over the internet.
Over the net we can only talk, which we do. How much of youtube FE devices are true you already pointed, video is not prove.

We can only believe and that could be painful at the end.

You mentioned importance of Tesla's one wire system. Can you point on some of your videos where you touched the subject, if you did such video.
Or can you talk more about it from your point of view?

Thanks!


Hoppy, thanks for the explanation!
And, Kapanadze impressed me as well. Still does.

[rickfriedrich]

Very good. Newmans coils are to be in resonance as well.

Rich, thanks for the reply  i can see whats wrong my old device (newman motor). It will need some work doing on it for sure.
regards AG

[rickfriedrich]

A sine wave.
As for people having a hard time doing the frequency conversion just study how the rectenna's do it as they are working in the GHz converting down to DC or in some cases 50 or 60Hz. This is whole other teaching, but since it is not directly OU it is just conventional knowledge. So everything from the L2 onward is found in the rectenna technology. And some of the L1/L2 relationships as well. In fact, at my last meeting I showed everyone how I could take three off the self products and put them together to have full Don Smith high output system that was self-tuning. Not a big deal once you get the main foundational points I have been stressing...

Hi have you got any info on this 60/up 60/down thing please ?

[popolibero]

Hi Rick,


You said nobody valued the info you are sharing, that is not true at all, in my case at least. I merely pointed out that fact that when the coil discharges, after the radiant event we still find a bit of current also, even though I totally agree on the fact that without the neg impulses we're tied to finding classic results only and won't find OU. But you misunderstood and overreacted and things went south. 
I totally agree that nothing can be demonstrated or proven on the net. Info can be shared and then everyone who replicates on the bench can only prove it to himself and who's physically around.
Just so you know why I'm here, my goal is to be able to have a solar system with no solar panels , where I'm either rotating 2 battery banks to run an inverter (or one bank that doesn't run down while powering the inverter.) While I understand your point about making the coil a motor, although I have done that, at the moment I'm interested in a solid state energizer with added one wire loads, that charge caps for battery pulse charging. I have been trying that years ago when dvd 7 came out, but back then I din't understand Tesla the way I do now (I know you don't think I do lol...) even though I still have a lot to read and learn. But the principle about fast and sharp impulses to trigger another type of inrushing energy is perfectly clear in my mind and is what I have been working on for quite some time. I built SG's more than 10 years ago and then moved to solid state, then after JB's riddles I got frustrated and moved to other projects such as delayed lenz generators, SERPS and other stuff, spending a lot of time and money. But I always knew there had to be a way to make the solid state SG do want I want it to do, that's why I jumped aboard when I saw your posts about dvd7 and the one wire, as I need direction from someone with the correct info. That's why I'm actually grateful for you being here and sharing, like someone else wrote, I'm on your side too... and ready to learn.


thanks,
Mario

[rickfriedrich]

Okay, now we are getting somewhere. I totally understand your frustration with Bedini's riddles and games. That was part of his disinformation.
And I understand, yes there is no need to use either motors or batteries. They are just easy to use for beginners to see different types of gains. I have pretty much exhausted my research in them and don't need them anymore. But motors and batteries seem to be the line that is allowed, so that is all we can sell without trouble. They are enough for everyone to have all their needs supplied like solar and wind (without their limitations and ruining the batteries). Then people can add this third stage process and multiply the energy out as much as they want as you will see in the next post of the movie I just uploaded...

Hi Rick,
You said nobody valued the info you are sharing, that is not true at all, in my case at least. I merely pointed out that fact that when the coil discharges, after the radiant event we still find a bit of current also, even though I totally agree on the fact that without the neg impulses we're tied to finding classic results only and won't find OU. But you misunderstood and overreacted and things went south. 
I totally agree that nothing can be demonstrated or proven on the net. Info can be shared and then everyone who replicates on the bench can only prove it to himself and who's physically around.
Just so you know why I'm here, my goal is to be able to have a solar system with no solar panels , where I'm either rotating 2 battery banks to run an inverter (or one bank that doesn't run down while powering the inverter.) While I understand your point about making the coil a motor, although I have done that, at the moment I'm interested in a solid state energizer with added one wire loads, that charge caps for battery pulse charging. I have been trying that years ago when dvd 7 came out, but back then I din't understand Tesla the way I do now (I know you don't think I do lol...) even though I still have a lot to read and learn. But the principle about fast and sharp impulses to trigger another type of inrushing energy is perfectly clear in my mind and is what I have been working on for quite some time. I built SG's more than 10 years ago and then moved to solid state, then after JB's riddles I got frustrated and moved to other projects such as delayed lenz generators, SERPS and other stuff, spending a lot of time and money. But I always knew there had to be a way to make the solid state SG do want I want it to do, that's why I jumped aboard when I saw your posts about dvd7 and the one wire, as I need direction from someone with the correct info. That's why I'm actually grateful for you being here and sharing, like someone else wrote, I'm on your side too... and ready to learn.


thanks,
Mario