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Overunity Machines Forum



Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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tinman

Quote from: Magluvin on November 15, 2017, 07:46:39 AM
Here is the thing....And its a response to all your replies above.....

Clearly the 2 depictions show all N mags. Why do you think that there were all N mags? Some gimmick?  Or is there a purpose that is not magical but logical for the situation?

Why not try and make it as shown? Too much work involved? Its only 6 coils. Only 6 magnets.

If this were a place that actually wanted to investigate claims, like say even a gov project facility for example, where people took the time to try and replicate with all that is shown as accurately as they could, to get some sort of base reference, do you honestly think they would substitute the energizer portion of the machine with you washing machine motor as a gen? If the people were serious about what they were trying to investigate, then the answer should be no.

Tk calls Bedini a huckster. And I imagine you follow the same lines going into this. So there is no vested interest in going all the way because you are all set on it is a joke. Too much bias to delve into it seriously. Like I know you are doing a lot with what you have shown of what you are attempting to show. Im not doubting that and Im as impressed as Erfinder with what you have put together in a short amount of time. But I truly believe we will all be missing out on the actual ideas involved in the original workings by doing so, if you happen to conclude that the machine is worthless after the fact... Thats what Im trying to convey here. 

Back in the days of the Whipmag, Tk, then his short name was Al, he stressed that replications should be as accurate as possible. Well these days it doesnt seem that way and replications become altered so much that they are not even recognizable in so many ways I want to cry. :-X ;)   



Gota git to work.

Mags

QuoteI know you are going into this with the idea that you will not see good results.

If that were the case,then why would i be wasting my time and money?
$60.00 already for the correct coupling and bushes.

As for the rest of your post,i now have in front of me exact building plans and a complete description of the device--and how it works.
So,there will be no more--your building it wrong bullshit.

And why do i call it bullshit?--because JB him self states that it can be a home built energizer,a DC generator,or an AC alternator--it is only the wave that we are after.
Guess what that wave is ?--a half wave rectified DC--thats it--his word's along with the wave form needed.

There is no special wave form,no motoring effect from the energizer as Erfinder claims.

It is all about the effects taking place within the lead acid battery--the pulse charging effect.

The battery-->a 12 amp hour motorcycle battery
The motor--> a G.E permanent magnet motor--1100rpm 1/12hp--or 62 watts
Quote: Permanent magnet motors are used due to there high efficiency-->so that eliminates Peter Lindermanns bullshit about having to use a series wound motor.
Coils-->6x 200 turns awg20 wire.
Coils are all in phase,and hooked in series,then half wave rectified on the trailing wave.
6x soft iron bolts as the cores.
6x magnets--early type neo's--all north facing out
Magnets bonded to aluminum disk/rotor
The two commutator brushes must be adjustable,so as fine tuning can be done.

It is also clearly stated that the size of the machine has no effect on it's operational function,and so can be scaled as needed.


Brad

tinman

 author=Void link=topic=17491.msg513138#msg513138 date=1510751552]


QuoteIf the cap and batteries are in parallel, then they will all 'see' current coming in pulses from the energizer.

I dont agree with this Void,as that is why we have caps in battery chargers--to smooth out the pulses before the current flows into the battery.

QuoteThe approximate one second on and one second off is in reference to Watson's large machine
where he was supposed to be using the 555 timer based switching controller circuit devised by Bedini.
When using the controller circuit, you can set the switching duration to whatever you like. How they knew
Watson was using a one second switching duration I am not sure, but that is what Lindemann reported.

I would think that this the case,as it was John that designed the switching circuit for Jim.


Brad

Void

Quote from: tinman on November 15, 2017, 08:31:07 AM
I dont agree with this Void,as that is why we have caps in battery chargers--to smooth out the pulses before the current flows into the battery.

Hi Brad. When the battery and cap bank are in parallel, they are acting as just one large capacitor.
They will all absorb the current pulses in a similar way. The battery can be seen as a very huge capacitance
capacitor, although internally it has a different structure.


citfta

Quote from: Magluvin on November 14, 2017, 06:38:09 PM

Then Cifta thinks the latest circuit is some sort of genius, and it hasnt even been tested yet.  That circuit IS NOT the Bedini circuit to the EXACT SPECS as the thread was stated to follow.  So lets just toss the 'no keyboard jockeys' rule also then why dont we. ;) I mean, if we dont have to follow the EXACT SPEC rule, why should any other rules apply? ??? Ridiculous.


Mags

Mags,

I am really disappointed in your reaction to my post.  I was only commenting on an idea thrown out by Brad.  He asked what do you think will happen if the circuit is connected like he showed.  It was only an exercise in free thinking. I never suggested it was a good circuit nor an improvement over the original.  In fact as has been pointed out by others the batteries will of course run down as there is no means to keep them charged.  I just thought the idea of connecting the output in series with the power source was a good example of thinking outside the box.

I occasionally get good ideas from you and Brad and Erfinder and others.  I don't always agree with everything any of you post but I still look forward to your opinions and ideas.  If me expressing my opinion about something upsets you so much then I will just keep my thoughts to myself.

Respectfully,
Carroll

tinman

Dear Erfinder

Your post's are now being removed.

You are no longer welcome in this thread--my thread.

So please start your own thread,if you wish to prove us wrong,by building a working Bedini machine,and presenting it to the members of this forum.


Cheers


Brad