Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[wattsup]

@Void (can't help myself @grum) (When I talk to any @member)

So, now maybe try the same thing with two then three batteries in series to equal the actual discharge voltage and more. See if there is a difference from your firsts.

wattsup

[Magluvin]

@Void (can't help myself @grum) (When I talk to any @member)

So, now maybe try the same thing with two then three batteries in series to equal the actual discharge voltage and more. See if there is a difference from your firsts.

wattsup

If the batteries are in series and equal the discharge voltage, then there would be no discharge to show on the scope..   

Mags

[itsu]

Hi Itsu. Thanks for doing that test. It is interesting that your current probe also
showed a squared off top on the current peak.  Strange that you measured such
a higher current peak than me using your 0.1 Ohm CSR, as your setup was similar
to my test setup. Maybe the test leads I was using have too much resistance and
that reduced the current peak quite a bit.

At any rate, it shows that even with a relatively smaller sized cap bank and charged only
to around 25V you should still expect quite large cap discharge peak currents, so if you
are using a relay to discharge the cap bank you may want one that has quite a high current
rating, like Tinman said he was going to try. If you are planning on using a commutator, then
keep in mind that the cap current discharge pulse could take up to 25 ms or possibly even longer,
depending on the resistance in commutator contacts and wiring connections.

All the best...

I did use short (5cm) thick (2.5mm² stranded) wire with slip-on and ring lugs, so the resistance was minimal. 

At 0.1 Ohm csr, the current was much more then expected and more then the current probe can handle according to its specs:

Maximum continuous current AM503B: 20 A (DC + peak AC)
Maximum pulsed current 50A                   <---------------------------
Amp⋅second product 1x10-4 A⋅s (100 A⋅us)

Probably the "amp.second product" spec. limited it to the 25A seen on the screenshot before flattopping (disregarding the current spike at the very beginning of the pulse).

Anyway, minimum resistance is key in this setup i think and/or useable to limit / control the current going in the battery.


Itsu

[tinman]

Ok,some facts about Bedini's  actual energizer he had working on his bench-well what he claimed was working on his bench.

1-why all north out with the magnets?.

The answer is simple.
As it was required to draw current from the energizer only as the magnets were leaving the core of the coils, to achieve this,all the magnets poles must be the same at each coil.
There is no reason at all you could not have all south poles out on the rotor.
You cannot use alternating poles to achieve the required half wave rectification, where current is only drawn from the coils after the magnets are leaving the center of the coil cores.
For this reason, my rotor on my large energizer is no good for the replication.

2- the energizer diagram that has been posted a few times here,is not the energizer Bedini had working on his bench.

3- the effect that makes this machine work, has very little to do with the energizer it self.

4- no one !including Bedini him self!, has ever shown this device working as claimed.

5- continuous high current pulsing into batteries-kills the batteries.

6- Bedini's  working model,had no large flywheel.
The rotor carrying the magnets was also acting as the flywheel.


More to come soon.


Brad

[Jeg]

There is no reason at all you could not have all south poles out on the rotor.

Yes that is true.

For the records, Leedskalnin spoke about a difference only when magnets are in different level than the coil cores..

"...Cut a strip of a tin can about two inches wide and a foot long. Put the North Pole of the U shape magnet on top of the strip, and dip the lower end in iron filings, and see how much it lifts. Now put the South Pole on top and see how much it lifts. Change several times, then you will see that the North Pole lifts more than the South Pole Now put the North Pole magnet under the iron filing box, and see how much it pushes up. Now change. put South Pole magnet under the box and see how much it pushes up. Do this several times, then you will see that the South Pole magnet pushes up more than North Pole magnet.  This experiment shows again that on level ground the magnets are in equal strength. ..."   Ed. Leedskalnin