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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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itsu


Seaad,  Gyula,

good info, and similar what i just thought up during my twice a week 10KM jogging run here in the woods (highly recommended).

I did some resonance tests earlier with 2 bifilar coils, see this thread post and video:
https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg505231/#msg505231

It clearly shows that the single resonance point (e.g. 180Khz) of 2 coils will move apart when tightly
coupling them (overcoupling).

I think thats what happens with the 2 coils moving close to each other yesterday, they get both out of resonance,
while when putting them ontop of each other they will get a better coupling.

I can/will test that out with my Spectrum Analyzer / Tracking generator.

In a similar way, that could explain why when approaching the big coil with (a) smaller coil(s) the voltage of the
big coil (and the input) goes down because we force the big coil out of resonance.

Perhaps a kind of PLL system is needed on the big coil to keep it at resonance by automatically moving the frequency.

Thanks,  Itsu

seaad

itsu
I think we need a (PLL) / freq. - locking device to every coil!
With a rigid setup it is possible to trim it by hand.
That's going to be as time consuming as trimming an old analogue
television I.M. circuit / coils.

R. Arne

benfr

Itsu : i do the hand thing to influence the resonance point of the satellite coils though.
And i do not see any variable caps in the original setup/kit

OK but you didn't buy it, so how do you happen To know there isn't  ::)
There  are.
Good so with your  hand you could make the 3rd coil in  resonance ? If yes that's good.
Hence  the  usefulness of having that slight capacitance change... With a variable capacitor.
Again courtesy of Rick's kit...thanks to  Him  !

Aking : impressed with your  setup !  I don't  have any big coil myself... I just have like 8 coils selfmade , made to  build a complementary kit starting from Rick's.  some coils are identical in length and some are integrer divisions in length because i'm trying To play with full wavelength instead of 1\4 wavelength (i assume it's better with full wl than 4rth wl but please interject  if i misunderstood anything from Rick and Don !). Good luck Sir.

a.king21

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 28, 2019, 04:26:51 AM
Yes we all like to play in the sand with our little one's, wile we have the time here.
but that's not the trick 'really' is it! You talk about DVD7 energy from vacuum series.
And yet you play with squiggly lines in a wire you call a sine wave, and i'm the idiot wasting space.
I ask you this, how the hell did tesla get access to HF ? cus your ignoring something he did your not.
You need to get back the Tesla's basics.
AG
Stop being such an insulting *@*(*(@@   Why not show us YOUR OU device.


We all know why and so do you.

rickfriedrich

The kit is 1.25MHz and always comes with a variable cap. Most people ordered the extra coil with comes with another variable cap.
At one point I did the big coil at around 184KHz, and the smaller coils needed 5nf to match that frequency. But the big coil always had a very good variable cap that I adjusted to the variable cap. I had just made that big coil randomly to fill up the 6" PVC which gave some interesting results. But this gave much less benefit than making the newer coils with much less turns to match the original coils running at the original frequency of 1.25 MHz (actually it ended up being 1.1 something). The higher frequency made a significant improvement even as higher CPS gives that much more output (if you have parts that can respond that fast, because these bulbs can't respond that fast).

One point to be understood from the kit is that even though you can have very many combinations of capacitance and inductance combinations in resonance at various frequencies there is higher Q and therefore higher gains at certain frequencies over others. This is like a sweet spot. This tells you something. What? So using the small coils at 180kHz with the very good 5nF caps did not produce the same results as using the kit frequency of 1.25 MHz (around) with 100pf. Also, using the big coil at 180KHz at the matched capacitance was not nearly as good as using it with a different frequency that allowed for over 5000V. But in order to use the same frequency with the little kit coils which had 5nF (for lack of any other caps available at that range, and a lack of having variable caps at that high value) I had to settle for around 184KHz to match them. Of course when we load the receiver coils down the frequency does change as well so we need at least a variable cap on the main coil or individual coils.

The other very significant adjustment to each coil is adding plate grounds or earth grounds. I do not mention earth grounds in the kit as I avoid recommending anything that can hurt someone. However, the transmitter coil is usually grounded if you use a power supply and/or a frequency generator that plugs in the wall. I noticed a major difference in output if the AC to the power supply did not have earth grounding. The results were about half the power. The individual coils can have double the power if connected to earth ground or even touching it (body ground). It depends on what side you touch and it's tuning. This is all part of the kit instructions. You will not understand all these things without the kit and I am not about to give all you the kit for free if you expect that. lol

Don Smith had a well developed electron theory which claimed that resonance draws in more electrons into the local area which give rise to more energy production if the are properly directed. This is gain is not properly realized in the kit because it becomes dangerous. We only see a doubling of the output on the transmitter and doubling of the receiver coils output with basic grounding. The full grounding method of Don Smith is more like a cycling of electrons in a loop with input and output in a very specific way. This is the commercial system not shown on the internet or to the general public. These kinds of systems are too dangerous for these hobby forums and would result in serious injury and even death for some people. It is not worth risking that for one person. This is why we do a small kit with limited tests. The kit can produce 1300V circulating voltage with various ma input and circulating ma up to 400 so that is fairly powerful. And earth groundings can result in significant outputs depending on what you do. So while the transmitter can have an earth grounding merely by plugging in a power supply, I never say to use earth groundings for the receiver coils. In the picture I have some metal balls as grounds that are like what Tesla showed with plates (represented by the letter P). The plate groundings are like added capacitance but are also a source of electrons. And your hand or body is also a large capacitance and a source of electrons. It is important to understand that the air itself is a ground and source of electrons (according to the theory). With resonance and Tesla coils the resonance process draws in electrons to itself as mentioned. The plates and your body will give up electrons more or less like the diffusion process in chemistry. It is more than that. It is like a magnetic process. So anything like this will suck electrons from the surrounding environment. The plates act like antennas, and so does your body. So the only healthy thing to do is use earth groundings as the richest source of electrons. This is why you will usually see a significant difference in output with earth groundings. And a fairly high gain from body grounding. But I also avoid mentioning touching the terminals as this can cause significant RF burn from the free leg of the neon bulb, and it also can drain you of electrons. Most people make Tesla coils in a way that rob them of electrons, which makes them feel worse and who knows what all the negative effects are. My student in the last video I uploaded from 4 years ago became an expert in this subject of using Tesla coils the proper way where he made them so that they would always be grounded and draw electrons from only the inside area of the coils and then would radiate out electrons in a way that was more edifying rather than electron robbing. This resulted in him, like Tesla, only needing to sleep 2 hours a night and he spent all those night hours studying these kinds of things. He gave very strong warnings against using Tesla coils in the way many people use them. But it is a requirement to connect the bottom of the Secondary Tesla coil to earth ground. So one of the reasons is because it is the richest source of electrons.

I know you guys will not believe these things and will laugh at this but it is the theory and all my experiments and replications of Don Smith show exactly the results he claimed. Again, I do not attempt to prove such things over the internet, but I offer up this information here for free and you can do what you want with that. Maybe some of you will benefit and others will just laugh or even hate me for sharing it. IDK. But this is some of the theory on grounding and how electrons can be used for creating gains. I have given an overview of how the old Klystron uses electrons in the Don Smith book also. But it is important not only to understand how electrons, and sources of electrons, can add to system output, but to also realize how rf systems can deplete you of electrons. Proper lab testing is therefore recommended by professionals understanding these things. I have suitable faraday shielding and even clothing that I show at my meetings even for doing experiments with this kit. Some people are more sensitive to such things than others. In our day there is a lot of rf radiation that is very bad for our bodies and it is going to get a lost worse with 5G. Not just with communication signals but with actual wireless power transfer. It's time to move out of the cities.

I can see here that people do not understand these things even at the basic understanding of conventional practice. While many people will not see grounding as an actual gain, there are many regulations that require earth groundings for safety. So much of what I have shared is implied with commercial equipment, especially with rf processes. It was primarily for safety considerations that I made the kit small so that people would not play around with larger setups and hurt themselves. People are so desperate to find free energy that they will risk their lives to do that. I cannot encourage that. People can stumble onto something all of a sudden and really hurt themselves. We see just about everyone make mistakes with smaller setups. So it would be just a matter of time before they did that with larger setups where there is no forgiveness.

Grounding as a source of electrons results in gains. You are always grounded more or less. Air ground, frame ground, or earth grounds are more or less electron contributors as mentioned. Once you understand that and cycling, you can use that to your advantage. Experience with this shows you just how sensitive and important the entire environment is in estimating all your energy gains and losses. If you had lenses on your glasses to see all the magnetic and capacitance relationships you would laugh at how silly modern technology is wasteful and self-destructive. You would also protect yourself in many ways. As I wrote in my last post, which was the most important thing I ever wrote online probably (and which apparently no one cares to read), you have to get used to thinking outside of the basic monolithic closed loop circuit and properly consider all the reactive loops in the local environment. This kit opens up the mind to that. You see how even touching the dial on the cheap red board frequency generator can change the tuning. You can see how the whole environment can become electrified where even holding one leg of a neon bulb within 10 feet of the transmitter can light it up (as I showed in Canada a few months back). The whole area can become resonant so that you can power many loads without drawing more energy to power the transmitter. The man coils video shows a small sample of that. I could have had about 500 coils all around that transmitter, and if suitable frequency conversion was done I could have much more dramatic results. So once you understand these basics you can do whatever you want, as long as you do it safely. Once you begin to realize many body reactive loops as apposed to single body closed resistive loops then you can begin to experience free energy. That is why I said that some of you cannot get out of that closed minded loop that ignores the real world and big picture. The kit helps with that and you realize there is much more going on than what the over-simplistic college level teaching gives you. I shouldn't have to say all these things on an OU forum because it should all be well known by everyone. But the lack of response in the last posting says a lot to me. There is nothing more to say than that. Good luck then confining all your attention to the single loop assumptions, as there will never be any free energy in such a narrow slice of the real world.

Quote from: itsu on June 28, 2019, 04:56:55 AM
And i do not see any variable caps in the original setup/kit

Itsu