Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[partzman]

AKing,

I'm curious to know how a common battery captures the Heaviside component as you describe in your posts?  If one accepts Tom Bearden's teaching regarding the Heaviside power flow that supposedly greatly exceeds the Poynting or "S" flow, what is the capture mechanism?  Have you actually been able to confirm the any capture of the Heaviside component?  If so, could you please give more detail?

Regards,
Pm   

[gyulasun]

Hi Itsu,

I have given further thoughts to the magnetic field of your TX coil and it is very likely that you will find similar behaviour i.e. zero magnetic field around the outside center part) at 50-80 kHz away like you found at the 180 kHz or so earlier frequency. 
I think the magnetic field on the outside of the coil would behave just like it does for an air cored 'electromagnet' excited by DC current: relatively strong poles will develop at the top and bottom ends of the coil, while in the middle part, outside the coil (where your black tape is) the magnetic field should be zero or at a minimum. And as you go up or down towards the coil ends the magnetic field strength starts increasing. When the current is AC, the magnetic poles alternate of course at the rate of the frequency.
Sorry for giving you extra tests. 

Regarding the magnetic field inside your TX coil, it should be the strongest and quasi homogeneous. I mention this because mention has been made on putting ferrite cored satellite coils inside the TX coil. I think this goes together with increased action-reaction effect (Lenz law) too. 

Gyula

[itsu]

Gyula,

Just seen your latest post while uploading my video below and writing this post.

Please look at the video as i think it contradicts what you just said.
Not sure though my magnetic field probing is correct.





I used my current probe (green) with a single closed loop to probe the outside of the big coil in an attempt to outline
the magnetic field.

I also used my normal voltage probe (yellow) this way to probe the outline of the big coil for maximum voltage.


I did this for the normal 192KHz frequency and for a 60KHz lower frequency so 133KHz (retuned for resonance).
No gate driver used,  just the battery operated FG, but with a ground lead to the black lead.

Both cases show we have a max. magnetic field in the middle and a max. RF field at the top.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsGziWV-GuA&feature=youtu.be       

As mentioned, i used a ground lead on the black FG lead, so also connected to the bottom of the var. cap.

When removing the ground lead, the RF signal (yellow) seems to have a dip (null) about 5cm above the bottom,
so not AT the bottom.
This null is the turning point for the phase of the voltage compared to the current, it changes 180°.

Not sure if this is significant, but reminds me of you thinking that "my TX coil behaves like a vertical antenna with a size little
longer in length than a quarter wave antenna but much less in length than a half wave antenna".
The magnetic peak however stays at the middle then.


Itsu

[itsu]

SO ITSU PLEASE USE THREE COILS PUT TWO HORIZONTALS TOP AND BOTTOM AND A VERTICAL COIL ALL IN THE MIDDLE ALL IN SERIES RESONANCE AND SEE WHAT HAPPEN.

Hi Seychelles,


well,  this is what happens, all 3 satellite coils leds go on.
Running on the FG only.

I could join their outputs and feed into a supercap for measuring the current, but probably
it still will be less then the input current (at the same voltages).

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66z4Kr_DEeQ

Satellite coils are in parallel resonance.

Itsu

[gyulasun]

Hi Itsu,
Thanks for your efforts.  Okay that it contradicts to my above post, we learn all the time. 

We need to evaluate the results. I think your small and shorted wire loop for indicating the current is ok. 
It is also interesting that current maximum remains in the middle while the voltage minimum moves up from
the bottom when you use the ground.  One would expect them both move.  Let's approach this otherwise:
what is approximate wire length in your TX coil?  When I thought of comparing the TX circuit to a vertical antenna, 
it came from a Tesla coil voltage distribution.  As the Corum brothers wrote it is a quarter wave helical resonator, with maximum voltage
at the top and minimum at the bottom if tuned correctly. 
Will be back later tomorrow only. 

Gyula