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Overunity Machines Forum



Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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itsu

Quote from: seaad on July 09, 2019, 07:00:40 AM
Itsu,
I think you comes into a situation where the super caps acts more or less as a shortcut also (extremely low impedance, as LEDs) when loading them.
My advise is to introduce some type of buck- converter in between the secondary coils [the gathered (high) DC voltages] and the  super cap.
These buck- converters can be made to have a very high efficiency ( >95%).

Regards Arne

Good idea Arne,  i have a boost/buck converter which i can use,  so i will give it a try.

Almost finished my 10th coil.

Itsu

itsu


Here my setup on checking up on the cooling effect as mentioned by A.king21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkGvfMnGrVo


Itsu

lancaIV

https://m.banggood.com/DIY-Mini-Tesla-Coil-Module-Unassembled-15W-DC-15-24V-2A-Plasma-Speaker-Electronic-Kit-p-1326817.html       
                                                                 4.29 US$ ( Tesla coil price part ?)

Only to show what organized is possible. !
Beginning with the moment that this Tesla coil assembly propagated by Mr.Friedrich shows really OU effect or  equivalent high energy savings by LED lamps use the industry brings fast the coil price down to 1 US$ each.

rickfriedrich

Void,
It's obvious that you have not watched very many of my videos, and probably don't even watch them all the way through. I'm not sure why you fault me for implying some of my setups are OU. Is there something wrong what that? Especially when I don't claim to prove things through video. So there you go, you guys fault me for not showing videos. Then I show one and then you fault me for implying OU or free energy. Then you assume that some arbitrary number of meters shown in a video is required or would prove OU somehow.

Can we stop with the lies here and have a rational discussion about what the expectations are, and justify such expectations.

Just because I don't try to prove OU over the internet (as indeed the title of a recent video stated) doesn't mean I don't have all the meters for all this research or know how to use them, or actually use them all the time. See the problem with you guys is that you are still trying prove OU to yourselves. I'm not trying to convince myself of something I use daily. My teaching is not really focused on the basic levels anymore as I did that many years ago. I have a few videos that do some basic teachings and I am putting together something right now along those lines. Obviously you are looking for something specific and taking your angst out on me here.  :P If you look through enough of my videos there is something for everyone. I didn't do very good quality videos as I really have not had the time over the years. I will soon restart all the videos to be much better quality. I don't take youtube very seriously anyway so they are what they are. As I wrote, these are for my customers and not usually for the general public.

I am not deceiving the public. If that was the case then people would say that. I have thousands of repeat customers and I only do this because they ask for it.

I think you are rather mistaken here and are probably confusing someone else's post with mine. When or where did I say I never implied my setups are OU? I don't usually use that term as I have another understanding of it than y'all do. It doesn't matter to me what definitions you want to use, but over unity is anything above unity. Unity is ambient, so anything above and below that that is powering something is over unity. I know that is not what people usually mean by OU, but there are several ambiguous meanings. People also don't like free energy, but it usually means more of what people are meaning by OU. However, OU is also many times implied to be a self-runner. That is not always what I am after in a setup. Sometimes I have motor systems that rotate batteries around. Some of you would say that is not a self-runner even if it is automated. But these become word games real fast. This is why I said you all have to start at the beginning and begin by showing Kirchhoff is not universal like Lewin showed. Show first that 5 or 10% more energy exists than what should be there. If you can't agree to starting there I ask why not? Use your meters to see more total power on the primary loop and then consider other outputs. Once you do that then you will be in more of a position to appreciate the loving paths idea and addition gains. But people are wanting to skip that and jump into the big gains. As if it is all or nothing. There is no rule that says that. So whether you get 5% or 50% or 95% or 200% more output than what it takes to input, why is any of these more important than the other?

Anyway, I never said I don't imply OU in some of my videos. Most of my videos imply that. So it shows you are not really paying attention. Or maybe you are just trying to create confusion here.

As for measurements, you also have to consider what people can understand. While I do constantly converse with EEs and advanced scientists who are actually at the top of the industry, many of my customers and people on these forums and YouTube would not understand such readings and math and I am trying to avoid over-complicating things. People just want to know how to make it work. If they can rotate batteries around or even just power another load while they run their fan with the same input then they are happy. But as for online forums like this, unless you realize what the meters even mean then what do they matter? I have addressed the meter issues already, but you all opted out of that discussion. Anyway, I don't go by a five minute meter reading. I look at systems over months and years.

Just because you and other people have difficulty in measuring impulses does not mean it is a meaningless or folly system as you say. You need to justify that comment more than just saying it. Says who? Why is anything but self-looping folly? I have worked with motor systems all my life, since 16 years old when I became a full-time mechanic. I have had two electric cars and several electric boats and many electric motors (most of these self-running). Why would it be merely folly to have something more than 100% efficient which was less than 200%? People actually are more open to something that is more efficient than something that is too efficient. So putting out motors that are 115%, which is actually being done, creates a lot more sales.

To say that someone is deluded or dishonest for saying or selling something less than what you are demanding is actually foolish. Most people on this forum would disagree with you. It may be what you are after but it is not foolish to consider less than that, especially in many circumstances. Do you want to go 50% more with your electric car? Is it foolish for someone to do that rather than another 100%? 

Quote from: Void on July 09, 2019, 02:57:09 PM
Rick, it is not about belief at all. It's about facts. I commented that I have watched a number of your
videos and it is an undeniable fact that you imply that some of your setups are OU in some of your videos, but it is also clear to me that either you do not have a basic understanding of how to do proper measurements to determine the real efficiency of your circuits, or you are dishonest and deliberately avoid doing proper measurements to mislead people into buying your products. Whether you are deliberately misleading people, or you are deluded, or whether it is a combination of both or whatever else, I don't know, but it is clear to me that you are just another person out there misleading the public with false claims. You then turn around in forums like this and claim you have never implied some of your setups are OU. That is blatantly false. I am not at all interested in your
rationalizations and deflections. Save it for the gullible. I am just pointing out what I have observed.

I think a COP > 1 might be possible. However, when working with AC or pulsed circuits where
accurate measurements can sometimes  be complex or otherwise quite tricky, an experimenter really
has to  configure the test setup to be 'self-looped' and then test if the setup can be made self sustaining.
All else is folly. Many people have posted to these forums over the years thinking they have COP > 1,
but it all falls apart when they try to properly self loop the setup and see if it can self sustain itself.

Anyone who claims or implies a COP > 1 without trying a proper self-looped arrangement first
is either very naive or very deluded or very dishonest.  Period.

a.king21

Quote from: itsu on July 09, 2019, 04:00:31 PM
Here my setup on checking up on the cooling effect as mentioned by A.king21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkGvfMnGrVo


Itsu


That was not my setup. I just replicated your setup and itis not cold. I was using the DSE.
Anyhow before we get into my setup can you measure the voltage across the bulb please?