Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[rickfriedrich]

Once again you are Void of truth and sense. That is just what a suppressionist would argue. I have already disproven this and you just refuse to deal with it. So you are once again playing games as the troll you are.
Prove your claim here or move on. I have proven the opposite.

1. That a person can go wrong doesn't make your claim true. You have not shown that.
2. Any extra energy used over unity is over Unity. It's really that simple 
3. Why is only electrical energy considered part of OU considerations? If I have two motors running for the price of one why is that not OU?
4. So even if someone produces a little more energy than what is understood to be unity, whether it is in electrical form or otherwise, it is still OU.
5. If I am creating 30kw of output power with 30W of input power that I don't care about, you would say that was not OU because it wasn't looped. Sure that is easy to loop but you get the point that the looping has nothing to do with OU.

SO LET IT BE SETTLED ONCE AND FOR ALL THAT OVER UNITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SELF-LOOPING. THAT IS A DIFFERENT IDEA. STOP PLAYING WORD GAMES. SELF-SUSTAING IS NOT OU EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN HAVE OU THAT IS SELF-SUSTAINING/LOOPING.

Any repeating of this is distracting from Over Unity research and considerations. This kind of trickery has been one of the biggest hinderances to get people from experiencing some form of OU on all these forums. What a major psychological ploy against this community! The other one is promoting the idea that you can prove some claim or disprove some claim over the internet. These two points are settled now, whether you like that or not.

If someone hasn't self-looped the circuit and got it self-sustaining, then that person is in no reasonable position at all to be making claims about 'OU'. There are just too many ways that a person can go wrong even in the rare case where that person has some decent understanding about making proper measurements and also understands well the many pitfalls which can be encountered in doing proper measurements. To call members here with many years of experience in this 'OU' experimentation area 'trolls' for pointing out the very obvious flaws in Rick's claims is mind boggling to

[TinselKoala]

Did you make the exact number of turns they calculated?

How many turns would you like, and can YOU show that it makes a real difference? Did the Ukes?

[NickZ]

   "Where is TK when we need him"?
    Well, I knew that he wasn't going to let those misleading comments go to waste.
    Thanks, TK for the replies. That does clear up some misunderstandings.

   One of the things to consider though, is the affect of the negative scope ground probe attached to the device. Does this cause a negative affect on the readings of the actual voltage and currents that normally would be present, and detectable, on a scope?
   Another thing to consider for all of us, is that when people make a rude and disrespectful comment, they can expect to see the same thing, coming back to haunt them.   I think that Rick already knows what will happen when he connects the scope to the device to read the values. In the "real world", after all those years. And that is why he will not do it, and instead continues to discredit everyone he makes a comment to, as if they are fools, and continues saying that only he knows what has to be done, to actually see OU.   So, unless Rick changes his mind, and shows us just what he is preaching about, things will not improve.   
   The picture in question, showing the lighting of many leds, is still in question, after all this time.   Is that how this will end?   

[rickfriedrich]

There ae some considerations in doing Cole's circuit. You have to give enough time between the phasing or you will have problems.
This circuit was never intended to be self-sustaining but we did show a video where the one motor ran for 20 minutes off an amplifier capacitor. That would probably take under 30 seconds to normally discharge. So it is cycling around the energy like Cole wanted. It is always better to charge an external battery and rotate it, but if you want something to just go a whole lot longer then that is a simple way of doing that.

Which brings me to the point I just made in the last post to Void of truth: Why is self-looping the only thing of value to these people? This arrangement has a lot more appeal in the present world that does not believe in perpetual motion. Charging up a battery much less frequently is accepted by everyone and is a great way to disguise such free energy processes. And of course that has long been done...

Re Rick presumed short for Richard, you were talking about or mentioned John Bedini's Cole - Bedini PM dc Motor or one of the many others, to cut it short it looked suitable for driving the Newman motor circuit, so I have used the circuit using 2 x Hall effect trigger circuit that drives a FW circuit with a home made PCB and a Full bridge feed back circuit, all remains is to drill the holes and assemble the board PCB shown below and lay out. I presume the pulses derived from the device do magic.

[a.king21]

 You know with all the brains on this site I am sure we could do something constructive.  Instead it's one faction against another faction all the time.  It's just sad folks.