Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[baudirenergie]

You must be aware that batteries can chemically produce current when they are under rated voltage or depleted.
Only capacitors can show true situation like Mr. Itsu did. He understood problem.
And he used supercaps.
You will be fooled with batteries.

Dont use batteries to.prove OU. Use capacitors of big capacitance, supercaps.

Why dont you do it and show to everyone OU? Why ask Mr. Gear to do it? Hmm?
Is that the same thing Rick does?
Envolve everyone to solve things for him?

Please do it, take a measurements and come back with results?
Dont take Ricks path of stating and doing nothing!
Thats the worst path!

Sorry, I wrote "...should be completly empty.". I meant make it completly empty to the under cutoff voltage like 11V. My comment discribes exactly what big battery labratories do, to test their battery banks. You have to run the batteries into their specs and measure the Watt hour. You can do it for example 3 times and will see, that you have very accurate results, if the discharge rate and temperature of the cells are nearly the same.

Why dont you do it and show to everyone OU? Why ask Mr. Gear to do it? Hmm?

Please read it again, I have write to Mr. Gear: "After your run you can unload all batteries in your system over the Wh-Meter and can prove for YOURSELF....".
Even if I could supply a whole city from a button cell, you would say that I have a measurement error.
So it makes no sense to proof anything. You are to intelligent or what they call it here "accurate" for me. I don't claim OU. I see only gains for myself.

[WhatIsIt]

Mr. Gear just send me email.

He is also moderated because Rick!
Is this how things are going here?

I hope Rick will bring you glory. You can moderate me as well!

[Void]

Anyway, if we just have longer lasting batteries on our loads, that is really great...

so instead of running a 3 Watts LED light on a 12 Volts 7 Amphour=84 Wh lead acid battery for 28 hours,
you now can now run it for 100 hours,
that would be a great thing and a good circuit to use !

Don´t you agree ??

Hi Stefan. Here is the issue with this.
If I connect a 12V MR16 LED bulb to a 12V battery directly, it will light with an efficiency of 100%,
minus any losses of any internal circuit components which may be inside the bulb itself.
Unless Rick's setup is OU, then it will light 12V LED bulbs with less efficiency than connecting
the bulbs directly to a 12V battery, due to losses in his driver circuit and in the other components in 
his setup.

All the best...

[TinselKoala]

Hi TK,
The LED bulbs used are the 12 V version of the MR16 types, made for both AC and DC operation.
See such at ebay what  a.king21 included as example here:
https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg533892/topicseen/#msg533892   
Gyula

Yes, I know, and I also know that there are probably thousands of different types of 12 volt MR16 LED bulbs. Some have COB LEDs, some have discrete 5mm LEDs, some have 3 or 4 or eight emitters... but most importantly SOME are just a resistor and series LEDs, and MANY incorporate the MAX16820 type High Brightness Dimmable LED controller chip inside.

This is why we need to know the _exact make and model_ of the LEDs used in RF's demonstrations, so we can get some of our own to test. It is certainly possible that a MR16 12 volt LED bulb with the MAX chip in it might behave very differently from one that just has a resistor and LEDs inside.

How are you going to correlate mere brightness with input power if there is a chip in there? And that chip is trying to maintain constant _visible_ brightness by PWMing its power to the LEDs as the input varies or fluctuates, and also can respond to PWM on the input side by being dimmable with COTS dimmer controllers.

Even with a good lightmeter, that chip is going to fool you more than once. I think if the bulb has the chip in it, the way to go will be to do a DC calibration on the LEDs themselves, and then scope the output of the driver chip as it goes to the LEDs, and so on, et cetera.

[TinselKoala]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kOGVfkoik&t=5619s

37 min 00sek ==> 38 min 20 sek

Sure, he _says_ he can use the output of one of his coils to actually run the frequency generator. Aren't you curious at all why he doesn't actually SHOW that?