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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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tinman

Quote from: rickfriedrich on August 06, 2019, 07:35:30 PM
While that was A point it was not THE point you were making. I do not tolerate rude or baseless accusatory comments. Your point was to call the video and all my videos fraud. And you assumed the motor was 50% efficient when the company said it is 94%. You are always assuming the worst in a very arrogant way.

No the video doesn't have the input jumping all over the place. Obviously it is an impulse motor however. Ideally a battery is better for this experiment but this was what people wanted. The point was that the comparison/conversion was the same. Also, the point was to show one change with advantageous results. That was done and you just can't accept it. Instead you just can't keep yourself from attacking. But who made you the king? Again, you just keep putting your foot in your mouth.

By the way you come across you would have to already know the answer to your questions. Sounds like you are just repeating what you have heard from other people. But when you do that Brad, you destroy your credibility.

The CFMs reading was just in the same spot to do the comparison to show that it was exactly the same with the two fans. It was not showing all the CFMs because I was only on one area.

I make my own power measurements in many ways. Yes I have all the appropriate power analyzers that I don't show in my videos. It is up to everyone to do that for themselves. What I did show was that I was reducing the input energy and also charging a battery significantly. It was not as much as with my other motors with improved circuitry, but it did show that for the same CFMs it took less input and did some charging. Someone else did this and got the same results.

What I got into the battery over time is relative to the size and condition of the battery as I have always said. See my last post for details about that being nonlinear. But if I get anything, then that is an improvement over nothing. Yes if I can run this off a battery and rotate batteries around then that is amazing. That I have done for 14 years now with such fans with a variety of different circuits. That is old news Brad. As I wrote, thousands of people have used these fans all over the world. One guy makes his entire living selling them (and I don't get anything for showing that).

You don't get it Brad. If the fan was 80% efficient then that is not the point. If you can make it take less energy and also put out more work than that is free work. Yes I know that we want self-runners here and the whole bit. But you won't even appreciate any improvement. You don't know what percentage it is. But you do know that it is more work than normal and that was my point. It also allowed for you and others to mock me for showing a significant gain. That was also my point. Now we can see your attitudes that automatically reject positive demonstrations. You guys demand meters and I showed a meter with a controlled experiment that is easy to do and which someone already did here. So that proves that meter readings mean nothing to you guys. If I pull out my Fluke power analyzers you will just reject anything I show in the same way. All will just be one circle argument that it is impossible to have over unity.

You are wanting too much all at once Brad. You just blindly rush into a China shop like bull and have no regard for details. The object is not to prove anything with a video. It is for others to do such things for themselves. There was nothing hard in that. I said that could be done with all the BLDC fans. What you are looking for is something to disprove. You are not at all interested in learning about OU or expanding your experience. You have figured out everything you expect to learn as your words imply. You have a very over simplistic electrical theory and it is not open to the real world.

If the fan is 94% efficient then reducing that input energy makes it even more efficient. Now the losses are still there. The negative energy does not mean that there is no heat produced as before. So the battery charging is not part of that forward loop calculation. That is the other point you don't get. It wasn't used before. And now it is. But read my last post and realize that there is a vast difference between looping it back with a diode and powering a load. And the size of the load also changes because this is nonlinear. And all these words do not even properly represent how the energy works.

Now I do know what the electrical output is when I know the exact capacity of my batteries and charge them and discharge them over time. Or I can use various capacitor banks also. Or I can use transformers, etc.

You have part numbers as I wrote.
You have efficiency numbers as mentioned. But that is not important.
You have your own output measurements. In your case it is whatever you assume beforehand.
I claim OU in the real world for myself. Such things can only be determined in the real world Brad.
The EE guys are a dime a dozen. I know more EE guys than I can count. Apparently there is a difference with the guys that you know and the EEs I know. I know regular and higher level EEs (some of which are at the very top). There is a big difference. Just as there is with those working with linear processes and those working with nonlinear advanced projects. If you can't understand Barrett's works that I have mentioned then you are not in a place to talk about EEs. I have no problem with what any EE says as I will agree with it. It is not what the common EEs say, but what they are not aware of because of their limited studies and experience. I know very specialized EEs doing very critical work in industry and military that work with this processes. Again, if you are open to learning that then read Barrett on electromagnetism as he is a leading authority at the advanced levels (not college level like most people are limited to).

Yes you live in a syfy world as you keep assuming and expecting a video to prove OU. Too much tv and chat time. You need to get to the bench and spend time with others on the bench. But only after you understand how to evaluate your own methodologies and assumptions. Study the history of electromagnetism for a start. Actually read Faraday and Maxwell and hear them out in their own words. Do the same experiments. Then notice what others took away from what they wrote. Actually read Tesla. You complained that people like me misrepresent him. Well I have read everything he wrote that is in the public domain very carefully. And I have done his related experiments and demonstrated them to others. Again, read Barrett on that. This is already proven out Brad. Yes I am just trying to make it easier because I doubt that most or possibly any of the active members here could fully understand those words or experiments. While I wish someone more capable than I could do this instead, at least I am trying to help here.

No Brad, we all make claims in life, in fact every day. Rarely do others expect you to prove the claims you make. And they would find you very strange if you went around addressing them as you do me when they make claims. "Prove to me Bruce, that it was a white male who spilled coffee on you at lunch."  :o  "Prove to me Rick, over the internet, that you do power measurements while proving OU!" "Prove to me Brad, that you even exist!" You are so incensed that you can't even give up on that delusion. Really, all you want to do is try and disprove OU. That is your mission. For you can easily show these things to yourself. That's all I ever hope to do. I don't need recognition. I really don't care what people claim they prove or disprove over the internet. I'm only interested in the real world. I love to get information over the internet as we all do. But that is something different than proof. The only proof we can have here is what you guys have proven so far with this silliness. You keep demonstrating it over and over. And that's the point I can prove...

Are you going to go running off to Stefan and have me moderated as well?,as it seems that all the long term members here who disagree with you keep getting moderated.

In fact,i have never seen so many members moderated here at one time for telling it as it is. Most of those have been doing this sort of stuff for far longer than you Rick,including myself.
So to say that i should try your setups for myself is laughable,as i have been doing this very thing longer than you have.

You have nothing new Rick--even your !loving path! circuit is Bedini's ssg circuit,which was designed by some one else back in the early 70s.

So Rick,you only make your self look stupid when you think that most of us have never experimented with your setup's. And to call people like Poynt liars is a true example of your stupidity.

You might be able to baffle some with your bullshit,but you will never dazzle most with your brilliance.

You continually claim OU and free energy,but you have never shown it. The reason you can't show it,is because you do not have it-and you never have. Nothing you have Rick is OU or free energy.

So i dont know what you got going on with Stefan to have all these long term-well educated members moderated,but i have decided to get to the bottom of it.
In fact,you and your systems are now my top priority,and i will be testing all of your setup's,and disclosing all my findings on the forums and my youtube channel. But mine will also have accurate power measurements and battery analysis with each test-unlike yours. And i will also be discussing things that have been taking place here at OU.com,regarding the moderation of all these long term members. So if you read this Stefan,you might like to give an explanation as to why the top guys on this forum are being moderated for doing nothing more than telling the truth.

So Rick,as i said--it is not us that is living in a fantasy land--it is you.

So Stefan,i now ask that Rick be made to supply OU.com with the relevant data to back up his claims of overunity,and prove that all the members that objected to his claims were justifiably placed on moderation.


Brad

citfta

I agree with all that Brad has posted.  I am sad to say I have lost all respect for Rick.  I was really hoping he had something useful to show us.  But it appears all he has is the same old snake oil salesman crap.  He has posted nothing of any actual substance to back up his claims.  He won't even post such simple information as the actual part numbers for the LEDs he is using. 



While I am disappointed in Rick I am actually shocked by the actions of the admin of this forum.  To put people on moderation because they asked for some technical data to back up the claims is going way over the top.  This will be my last post in this thread.  I will still make posts in some threads by Floor about magnet interactions.  When those threads are finished I will be done with this forum.  This forum has degenerated into another Energetic Forum to promote apparently false claims and products.

Carroll

tinman

Quote from: citfta on August 07, 2019, 06:28:39 AM
I agree with all that Brad has posted.  I am sad to say I have lost all respect for Rick.  I was really hoping he had something useful to show us.  But it appears all he has is the same old snake oil salesman crap.  He has posted nothing of any actual substance to back up his claims.  He won't even post such simple information as the actual part numbers for the LEDs he is using. 



While I am disappointed in Rick I am actually shocked by the actions of the admin of this forum.  To put people on moderation because they asked for some technical data to back up the claims is going way over the top.  This will be my last post in this thread.  I will still make posts in some threads by Floor about magnet interactions.  When those threads are finished I will be done with this forum.  This forum has degenerated into another Energetic Forum to promote apparently false claims and products.

Carroll

Indeed,as i stated earlier in this thread.

But Rick was here years ago,doing the very same thing--big claim's ,and not one shred of evidence to back up those claim's.

https://overunity.com/15366/new-free-energy-conferences-in-hamburg-and-chicago/

Thanks to another member at OUR for the above thread link.

In that thread,you will hear Rick moaning about all the troll's (trolls are now those that ask for accurate power measurements from claimants of OU devices)in this forum,and how bad this forum is-->and yet,here he is again  ::)

Rick's !loving path! circuit is just John Bedini's SSG circuit--nothing more.
But it isn't even JB's circuit,as that very circuit was designed back in the early 70's.
Both are nothing more than an inductor being switched on and off,and the flyback sent to a load.
Neither John or Rick actually know what they are looking at,or how to understand the simplicity of what they are doing. Neither seem to understand that the energy of the flyback came from the source in the first place,but rather call it some bullshit like energy from the vacuum,or negative energy. Yes,this is the extent of there understanding.

It is funny to watch--
JB takes some one else's circuit,and calls it his own,and then Rick takes JB's circuit,and calls it his own  ::)

So just remember guy's-->trolls are those that seek truth, ask technical questions,and ask for data that can verifi the claimants claim of having an OU device.
Trolls are also those who replicate said OU device,but where the OU just dose not show up after careful analysis and power measurements-->you are now a troll and a disinformationist.

You have all witnessed in this thread that John Bedini's blood still flows strong through Rick's veins,and the very same tactics are still being used today by Rick as he used when in a business partnership with the Bedini camp-->a tigers stripe's never change.


Brad

ramset

 Well one member asked me to call or talk to Stefan yesterday and I did
And Stefan explained how things were going with his friend Who is doing the Work
" By the book "
There were a few snafus which were sorted yesterday and hopefully a good video explaining everything should be presented very soon (any moment to few days)


Members must understand regardless of what is written here
From Stefan's perspective ...there's a man explaining results of some sort?
we shall see what happens!
it will be discussed here when it does happen  and hopefully replicated if there are any members left


I have not really been able to read recent comments here
With my phone
My PC should be sorted in a few days


Chet

Edit for spelling
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

a.king21

I have to interject here:  TK was moderated because he called Rick a swear word.  Rightly too.
Brad said that one of  Rick's devices was 50% efficient.  A blatant lie.  He is the one pushing false claims against Rick.
If  you  haters could be a fly on the wall listening to the conversations between Rick and myself you would be ashamed of your selves.
Some guys on another forum even suggest that Rick does not understand VAR.
Jeepers, guys, if you only knew the truth.


The early information is based on 4 granted Benitez patents.  For your information - in those days (1914 to 1918) you had to have a working model or the patent would say "no model". Benitez produced 4 different working models. Benitez also had patents granted in other countries.


Here is a guy (Rick) offering free information.


Take it or leave it.
But the hatred and vitriol against this free information speaks volumes.