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Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.

Started by synchro1, November 19, 2017, 08:20:57 AM

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citfta

Quote from: tinman on February 24, 2018, 10:01:55 PM
Great video Carroll,but do you get the feeling that it will fall on deaf ears?

Sometimes we just have to let people walk there own path.

A negative resistor would become a power supply/battery.
You could just build a negative impedance converter--that would get  synchro1's juices flowing lol.


Brad

Hi Brad,

Yes I am pretty sure it will fall on the deaf ears of some.  I posted it mostly for the benefit of those who have been totally confused by all the misleading information posted in this thread.

Take care,
Carroll

synchro1

Negative Impedance Converter=(NIC)  AKA  Negative Resistor Converter=(NRC) two acronyms for the same Op Amp circuit.

"This a wacky circuit"

"Ordinary resistors, which obey Ohms law in a simple way, drop a voltage across their terminals when a current flows and dissipate power that is lost as heat, according to the well known equation P = IV. When a current is pushed through a resistor, a voltage is dropped across the resistor and heat is still lost through the same mechanism. However, when our hypothetical device, which we will call a negative resistance converter, or NRC, has a voltage drop across it, a current flows through it in the opposite direction: from low to high voltage".

Not only does current flow from low to high voltage in this circuit, the capacitor behaves like an inductor and the inductor behaves like a capacitor.

The fact that we can build a circuit that reverses all known laws of electronics proves that perhaps the effect measured by me in my "Twin Serial Bifilar Spiral Coil" is real and not the result of instrument malfunction.

Behaving like an NIC, the coil is acting like a capacitor, but there's no power input. I believe power is flowing into the coil from a "Zero Point Energy" source that's substituting for a ground. There's a reaction going on inside the coil that's ceaseless. The NIC acts like it's generating energy (Exactly backwards) when it's attached to a load, but it has a power source. The "Quadfilar Spiral" appears to be drawing power in from the vacuum of space that registers as a negative value in inductance and is infinite.

Rather then build an NIC, I believe it would be better to build additional "Quadfilar Spiral" coils to experiment on. John Bedini used Quadfilar coils in his "Ferris wheel" motor that ran perpetually with no input. He contacted me because he believed my research impeded his patent application on the coil, and I informed him I was willing to relinquish any claim on the invention. Bedini left no specific schematic of his "Ferris wheel" circuit, but supplied us with some sketchy outlines.

citfta

Quote from: synchro1 on February 25, 2018, 03:22:57 AM
Negative Impedance Converter=(NIC)  AKA  Negative Resistor Converter=(NRC) two acronyms for the same Op Amp circuit.

"This a wacky circuit"

"Ordinary resistors, which obey Ohms law in a simple way, drop a voltage across their terminals when a current flows and dissipate power that is lost as heat, according to the well known equation P = IV. When a current is pushed through a resistor, a voltage is dropped across the resistor and heat is still lost through the same mechanism. However, when our hypothetical device, which we will call a negative resistance converter, or NRC, has a voltage drop across it, a current flows through it in the opposite direction: from low to high voltage".

Not only does current flow from low to high voltage in this circuit, the capacitor behaves like an inductor and the inductor behaves like a capacitor.

The fact that we can build a circuit that reverses all known laws of electronics proves that perhaps the effect measured by me in my "Twin Serial Bifilar Spiral Coil" is real and not the result of instrument malfunction.

Behaving like an NIC, the coil is acting like a capacitor, but there's no power input. I believe power is flowing into the coil from a "Zero Point Energy" source that's substituting for a ground. There's a reaction going on inside the coil that's ceaseless. The NIC acts like it's generating energy (Exactly backwards) when it's attached to a load, but it has a power source. The "Quadfilar Spiral" appears to be drawing power in from the vacuum of space that registers as a negative value in inductance and is infinite.

Rather then build an NIC, I believe it would be better to build additional "Quadfilar Spiral" coils to experiment on. John Bedini used Quadfilar coils in his "Ferris wheel" motor that ran perpetually with no input. He contacted me because he believed my research impeded his patent application on the coil, and I informed him I was willing to relinquish any claim on the invention. Bedini left no specific schematic of his "Ferris wheel" circuit, but supplied us with some sketchy outlines.

You put this in quotes.  So who are you quoting?  Where did this "Fantasy Island" statement come from?  What does a Quadfiler Spiral coil look like?  I was there when John Bedini demonstrated his "Ferris wheel" motor and the coils looked just like normal very large coils.

Why didn't you comment on my video?  Don't you see that there is no way for the current in a coil to reverse direction back into the supply?  The Leds clearly showed which way the current went when the power was removed from the coil.

Respectfully,
Carroll

citfta

Hi Erfinder,

I have a terrible memory when it comes to dates.  But it was the first conference.  At that time Rick Frederick was still with the Bedini camp.  I remember him taking hold of the edge of the wheel as it turned and it lifted him off the floor. 

Later,
Carroll

gyulasun

Here are two ebay offers on a high precision LC meter,  type LC100-S:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/121281538518  and  https://www.ebay.com/itm/180901471370

Both meters are shown to measure a 4 turn air core coil, see the attachments below. The croco clips can give a comparison between the sizes of the two slightly different coils, there is a small difference in the OD of the coils, in the wire diameter and in the distance between the adjacent turns, these explain the inductance difference between the two coils.

Notice in the technical description of the meter that the display should be reset to zero before doing any L or C measurements.

Now if you plug in a piece of ferrite rod into any such coil while under the measurement with this meter, then do you think the display will show zero or negative L value with any position of the ferrite core inserted into the coil?  I do not think.

You show a 12 turn air core coil in your video first which is measured by your L meter as -0.003 mH i.e. -3 uH. What do you think the LC meter above would show for your own air core coil first?
I do not think it would show a negative uH value. If a 4 turn air core coil as shown in the two cases measures positive uH values, than it is impossible for a 12 turn coil to have negative uH value. 

It is a question of the resolution capability of a meter. What is the smallest recommended uH value for your meter to distinguish?  For the LC meter type above it is able to measure 0.001 uH inductance as the smallest value (from its data sheet).  Your meter does not have a uH range, only mH, unfortunately.   

Gyula




Quote from: synchro1 on February 24, 2018, 05:44:58 PM

@smOky2, Citfta,

I built a copper wire coil with a variable ferrite core I showed in a video above. I positioned the core in the coil to measure zero inductance with my inductance meter. When I move the ferrite core out one centimeter, the inductance measures negative .001 mH. When I move it out two centimeters, it reads negative .002 mH. Now when I reset it to read zero, then move it in one centimeter it reads positive .001 mH and when I move it in again another centimeter it reads positive .002 mH.

Now are you two maintaining that the negative reading has no value over the positive one as a core locator?