The secret to Overunity

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Hi Tajerek. It has already been pointed out to you that you are making major mistakes in
your assumptions and interpretations. The total charge on a capacitor at a given point in time
is equal to C x V, yes, but that in no way means or implies that to build up that charge on
the capacitor that no current has to flow. You are showing that you have no understanding
of what the formulas represent.


There is no possible way that you have tested this, because if you did do some actual testing
you would quickly realize that what you have been saying here is false. To charge a capacitor
requires a flow of current (flow of charges). The formula which you yourself have posted for the capacitor
charge current clearly shows that the higher the applied voltage, the higher the capacitor charging current will be.

For you to keep saying that when you apply a high voltage to the capacitor there will be little or no capacitor
charge current is not only obviously completely at odds with the formula which you posted, but it shows that
you have not even the most basic understanding of simple electric circuits and how capacitors work. If you did,
you would not be making such obvious errors.

I won't waste further time on this, as anyone with even just a very basic understanding of capacitors will be
able to see that what you are saying makes no sense.

All the best...

B.S.


To charge a capacitor you need only to apply Voltage to
One plate. (Or layer)


Potential.


Understand "what" a capacitor is.


Any two conductors are a capacitor. Even when one of those is only the air.


The device we label a capacitor, is an advanced form capable of holding
separated charges very well.
But by the technical definition, my metal desk is a capacitor.


(and I can discharge it through an inductor to prove this)


A hunk of metal, is a capacitor.


Two hunks of metal, separated by an insulator, is an even better capacitor.


(air can also act as the insulator if a more conductive plate is substituted)
(two air-conductors can act as plates, if a more insulative substance is substituted)


The ability to hold a charge is the ONLY real requirement.


A single electron, and single positron, can form a capacitor.
and comes pre-charged
(this will disintegrate upon discharge, so is 'temporary)


Rub your socked feet across the carpet, YOU are a capacitor.
Have a girl in glass slippers rub her feet across the same carpet
Now the both of you make an even Better capacitor.
Form a circuit between you to discharge it.
(sometimes experience is the best teacher)


Charge only wants to distribute uniformly across a conductor.


Yes, you can translate this motion of charge distribution into "current"
using various formulas, but the time-factor makes this an infinitesimal value.


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if you charge Both plates of a capacitor, you are essentially forcing current into it.
And in this manner, yes there is a measurable current.
It is synonymous to the Carnot cycle.
You are wasting 50% of your charge.


Allow the second plate to charge inductively, requires only half of the potential.
And you can measure this if you refrain from grounding half of your charge.

[Void]

To charge a capacitor you need only to apply Voltage to
One plate. (Or layer)

Good grief. Is it a full moon?

Whether you a putting a 'charge' on a single piece of metal or on a two plate capacitor,
you must either remove charge or push more charge onto the metal. The movement of charge
is current.  At any rate, Tajerek was obviously not talking about putting a charge on a single piece of metal.
His diagram shows charging a two plate capacitor, and my comments were in response to what
Tajerek has been (falsely) saying here.

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Hi peper10, the problem is not at all that you were sharing some ideas, but the problem is that you are making claims and getting upset because people were asking for some clarification and that sort of thing, and insisting that you know much more than people here even though it seems you haven't even put these things to the actual test.


You see VOID!   Instead of finding trouble with everyone theory, why don`t you try to experiment and come back with SOLID proof that he is wrong?  That`s what I find funny with this forum...   COUNTER CLAIMS are not validated but we are supposed to go with it..    That is a crazy world...[/li]
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You see VOID!   Instead of finding trouble with everyone theory, why don`t you try to experiment and come back with SOLID proof that he is wrong?  That`s what I find funny with this forum...   COUNTER CLAIMS are not validated but we are supposed to go with it..    That is a crazy world...[/li]
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Good grief again...

I know it probably won't do any good to point out to you that I am not the one
claiming to know the 'secret' to getting OU. Pointing out that someone is making
obviously false statements does not need to be proven, because this should already be
obvious when looking at the formula for capacitor charge current which Tajerek posted.
That is very basic stuff.

The last full moon was apparently Dec 3, so that is not it...

[peper10]

Good grief again...

I know it probably won't do any good to point out to you that I am not the one
claiming to know the 'secret' to getting OU. Pointing out that someone is making
obviously false statements does not need to be proven, because this should already be
obvious when looking at the formula for capacitor charge current which Tajerek posted.
That is very basic stuff.


The last full moon was apparently Dec 3, so that is not it...

I just repeat what you have said to me{ Claim without testing is waisting time}...  If it`s good for you to tell any person that same phrase, it`s good resonning to serve you the same treatment...  [/color][/font][/size]
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