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Overunity Machines Forum



170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video

Started by e2matrix, February 17, 2018, 01:03:05 PM

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konehead

Hi Erfinder
No problems eh! -for 36 slots, just adjust everything to be one more step now (6 instead of 5)  I am sure you know with 36 slots you will have same as what Pierre has....You have probably seen it, but look at his latest video showing him draw out the 6 NSNSNS phases...included is the many-switches switching method he does, (note the pos and neg rings around) I had to watch a few times on full screen to understand - also note the small arrows he draws to show flow direction too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4cC9hIXbg


konehead

Hi Erfinder
In answer to your riddle, I would say what not discuused or "seen" much (so far anyways) is the windings and fields NOT being pulsed or intentionally rotated ....so, for every phase(s) pulsed, there are 5 (in 30 pole stator 6 in 36 pole) being induced and getting also their polarities whipped around....and so WHERE does this "5 times greater" induced energy" go to? What does it "want to do"?
I would say it wants to collapse like a pulsed magnetic field would, BUT there is never any OFF period in the scheme of the field rotation, so it cannot collapse even if it wants to, it is trapped and goes along for ride, being induced more and more until it says fuck it and exits out the diodes to be put to good work...so this induced energy puts itself to work reinforcing both the joules filling up the cap bank to keep it looped, also it induces even more power than is "normal" into that fixed-rotor secondary...
Also there is no lenz law from field rotating (as there is if physical rotor rotates) and no CEMF too, in the transformation from primary to secondary, if there was either, this design would never be able to loop (my opinion)  so why is there is no lenz, no CEMF? 
I would say lenz just "does not apply" and no CEMF because there is never an OFF period to that rotation...and/or else the rotation keeps the CEMF from secondary getting a grip on the primary as it is always moving, chasing its own tail...
As for the reversed and colliding flow of fields through the ends of the coils, this is very interesting effect and possibly another factor why this machine design both loops and has such good leftover power...as I wrote about last lengthy post those opposing fields through common stator slot (could) work like a coil short, and guess what happens when an energized coil is briefly shorted for an instant?
If you have a FWBR or diodes connected from this coil to cap, the cap fills up super fast and very high voltage is what happens....but just having a small portion of the "ends" of a coil passing through a stator slot shared by another coil going other way in its flow direction is new ball of wax to consider what happens in just what it is that happens,  I will guess it causes a brief shorted-at-peak condition to the  coils,  ("hyper ringing")especially when adjacent "reversed flow"  coils are both ON at same time (to make field rotation be without OFF period)
Anyways here below in link to page on my website,  is photo of what I looks like when a generator coil producing square-wave 60hz AC has its leads shorted together briefly with a switch (mechanical in this case) ....look at that hyper ringing as I describe it as, and you can see how caps would fill up very fast and high with this coil rectified and connected to capacitor (photo at bottom of webpage link)
Note it resembles "a bit" how Pierres AC looks, at least at the middle of Pierre's sinewave, and although this photo has much higher voltage peaks than what Pierre has, there is still that similar flurry of spikes in Pierres scope-shot of his wave form too..  so this makes me think a shorted condition does occur from the sharing of stator slot with coils of reversed electrical flow (bucking) but please don't get distracted too much with this it might not be actually the effect the shared-slots create but it might be...
https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/shorting-coils-circuits


konehead

Hi Erfinder
Forgot to ask, what was it that Gary Porter (captainbythesea) showed everyone but no one could see??
Gary has sent me in my email quite a few examples of how to pulse, how to wire this DZ generator design, I probably have 6 or 7 different ones of how it could be working! So not sure exactly what it is that we should be looking at....
By the way in Gary's last email he mentioned what about a circular central core instead of that fixed rotor?
Good idea eh.....perhaps big torroid I don't know endless possiblilites really...
I think no problem if someone wants to copy to the T what Pierre does (replicate exact ) and why not at least that person will be on same page with Pierre, can confirm, understand better, and then improve upon in next prototype like Pierre is doing already....
Could be going solid state in switchin will destroy the whole design, we will see what happens sure will be lot quitter and more reliable if so....I tend to think a couple copper commutators with brushes would work best and most reliable - one commutator for N pulsing, other for S

gotoluc

Yesterday I wanted to find the individual coil switching frequency of Pierre's device by taking pictures frame by frame of his video until the switching cycle starts over.
NTSC video is an excellent timing reference because it is fixed at 30 frames per second.
I sent the pictures to PmgR and he came up with the below calculation.

From PmgR: comparing photo 2 and photo 10 (or 1 and 9), that is 8 video frames and a change of 12 coils. So at 30 frames per second that comes down to 0.0222secs for switching to from one to the next coil. That is about 45Hz, probably the fastest the relays can go.

francais
Hier, j'ai voulu trouver la fréquence de commutation de bobine individuelle de l'appareil de Pierre en prenant des photos image par image de sa vidéo jusqu'à ce que le cycle de commutation recommence.
La vidéo NTSC est une excellente référence temporelle car elle est fixée à 30 images par seconde.
J'ai envoyé les images à PmgR et il est venu avec le calcul ci-dessous.

De PmgR: comparer la photo 2 et la photo 10 (ou 1 et 9), soit 8 images vidéo et un changement de 12 bobines. Donc, à 30 images par seconde, cela revient à 0,0222sec pour passer de l'une à la suivante. C'est environ 45Hz, probablement le maximum des relais.

pmgr

Quote from: Erfinder on March 18, 2018, 05:49:46 AM
No one seems to comprehend the relation that two properly polarized coils in the same slot represent....  ...  I do....  see image... I eat sleep and breath this concept for the last 8 years....  My opinion doesn't matter though, because I don't have a self running device.... LOL...
Erfinder, please enlighten us all so we may learn in the process  :)


PmgR