user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?

[CTG Labs]

@Aether22, Garden wire does have insulation on it, green plastic!

@GK, can you confirm the input power and output power?  As Stefan says, if you are already putting in near 100watts, then heating is no surprise?  What then is special?

Sorry if I missed something.


Regards,

D.

[CTG Labs]

GK, Otto,

If you have all the control coils connected in this manor, then how are you applying the 3 frequencies?  Are they all applied together to the series coil set, or is it one frequency per layer?


Regards,


D.

[aether22]

@Aether22, Garden wire does have insulation on it, green plastic!

@GK, can you confirm the input power and output power?  As Stefan says, if you are already putting in near 100watts, then heating is no surprise?  What then is special?

Sorry if I missed something.


Regards,

D.

Hey Dave,

I had florist wire in mind, which is green but not insulated and used in the Cook coil which I guess made me think this was the same stuff, wasn't aware there was plastic coasted wire used in gardening.

GK, can you please cofirm your stuff it covered with green plastic?

BTW while looking for what I thought was needed I did see garden wire, but it was steel not iron. It might come down to the option of iron not insulated or steel insulated.

Dave, Giantkiller has reported gyroscopic effects, though I'm not sure he has reported anything which is solidly weird besides that, and admittedly last thing he said on the effect is that it is slight.

Other things he has reported include heat that doesn't seem to conduct along wires, intense heat in about 2 seconds, feeling energy from his device, 'kicks' he feels from his device but don't show on the scope, it takes 8 seconds to get up to speed which fits aether better than EM building up, vibration (though with pulsed electromagnets and iron core that's no shocker).

Admittedly as gyroscopic effects are the only undeniably impressive effects yet I would appreciate it if GK could convey how sure he is that the gyroscopic forces are real, have they got stronger with stronger current you're now running? (and not just an illusion created by the vibration)

[CTG Labs]

Hi,

You can see the green coating in his photos.  Its simply this- http://www.toolspot.co.uk/products/Gardening/Heavy%20Duty%2015M%20Garden%20Wire.jpg

It is steel wire.

I wasn't aware he had felt the gyroscopic force, this implys a real rotation?  Normally a multiphase motor doesn't have a real rotating field, just several fields growing and shrinking at different times and a magnet or compass or whatever, can just "ride" on this effect, but its not like getting a magnet on a shaft and spinning it for real.  The word "rotating field" in a phase motor, is just a term, its not literal!

GK certain has a lot of the effects, I have never felt heat or any gyroscopic feelings.  How can gyroscopic forces be felt when no mass is moving or spinning?!

Looks like he is on the right track, I think we just need some real Input/Output power measurements now!


Regards,

Dave.

[aether22]

Yeah, but of course Dave, just to clarify.

Even if you had a true rotating field somehow, it still wouldn't display any gyroscopic effects (you could argue that light moving in a circular waveguide could impart a slight force)

So as there is no rotation of physical matter (and fields don't count), what could be rotating? ;)