user TURBO?s replication of Steven Mark?s TPU ?

[mrd10]

Hi All,

I believe X is on the ball with 3 frequencies, also I believe that SM's open TPU 90volt version uses this method. I'll go back to Lindsays post with SM, about the exploding or imploding TV set that killed that kid many years ago, do you think that the toroid in that was wound in any special way, something was obviously flawed that made this thing pick up freq and then build up that much power, that it became a form of magnetic blackhole generator.

Anyway let me get back to open tpu, there are winding over a larger coil, but get this the finer coil only is wound on 3 of the 4 segments.

So whats this telling me, that each section is fed a different frequency, thats what ill be working on once i finish my first one.

want to see my work so far goto yahoo:-
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/markdevice/,

youll need to become members to view the photos, maybe stefan can throw them on this site, and i can update here as well, im not sure how to do it.

Mrd  ...

[mrd10]

Oh again I'll support X on this one, and the conclusion I came up with, look at all SM's devices, they are different, so it is not critical about the way the coils are done, its more critical how we feed these frequencies and what we get out.  I like the 90volt version because it looks simplistic in nature to build, and it was easy to build.

Took me no time to do it, the tips are on yahoo if you want to check the photos.

Cheers All,

Dom

[ronotte]

Hey, there is lot of action here now! This is good as we have to join all our forces
in order to obtain results. The more the best!

@Harti
Yes you are right. But there is a reason why I have not yet included the outer collector coil in my design (inspired from Mr. X..... sincerely thank you again Mr X).
We have to think that SM showed us that TPU has indeed some mechanism for self
mantaining the operation   (in other word we have to disconnect the 3 frequencies generators)......this imply that SM has set-up a positive feedback path.
A feedbak from where?  Certainly coming just from the outer coil (which does collect everything), going to?......well this is still not clear to me. May be that I have to
feed back only a part of the output signal to be put in series with control coils?
Please think about it.

At this stage I feel to confirm that dimensions, number of turns, etc are not important.
So just start to wind and try to optimize the kick creation process which of course is still
largely unknown.

Regards to all
ronotte

[pese]

@pese
Sorry you are right....striving for the time I've not checked completely the drawing!
Really there are few errors. Soon I will post a correct one.
Ciao
ronotte

I hope that the following google translation is to understand better do engl. folks - AS thetranslation that i read from english to German :-).
If not so , some other"me unknow" translations will be better ? Try it if that need.

Hallo Ronotte ,
passe auf dass du dir nicht zuviel arbeit mit einer neuen   zeichnung machst. umso komplizierter diese aussieht, umso mehr fehler  kannst du einbauen UND umsomehr fehler wird DER machen der das nachbauen   will.  Das Zeichnen eine Toroid Ringes gen?gt wenn ma 2 weiter andeutet  und beschreibt , ass diese geanu parallel zu jeder spule des ersten  Ringes angeschlossen ist.  Weiter muss man wissen , dass jede der 3 Farben eine Spule genau gegen?ber  hat die genauso parallel angeschlossen ist.(Oder bei Dir andersherum?)  Alle Wicklungseing?nge der Steuerung F1 Fe F3 erfolgen im Uhrzeigersinn  und die Ausg?nge auf der anderen Seite der Spule ( im Uhrzeigersinn)  Ferner muss mann beim Nachbauen wissen , dass nicht nur Windungszahl  bei allen gleichsein muss , sondern noch wichtiger auch der  Wicklungssinn (Drehrichtung des Drahtes). Alle Ausg?nge der Spulen  sind mit (+ Battery) verbunden (?) . lle Eing?nge mit F1,2,3 Steuerspannungen  die eine sqarewave Ansteuerung gebrauchen die "in diesem Falle"  3 verschiedene Frequenzen ben?tigt.    Ich denke wenn Du die Scaltung so " Simpel " zeichnest und beschreibst,  dass dan Fehler in Zeichnung und Nachbauten " minimiert" werden.    --------------------    I found NOW out : Wenn ich die "Coler Spule " "Magnetsromapparat",  auch anders zeichne , kann ich die komplizierten Wege der Anschl?sse  zudnen noch 2 verschiedene Magnetpolspulen-arten geh?ren auch  verstehen !! Der Anblick der Schaltung hat in ?blicher Darstellung  mir nur 3 Jahre Kopfschmerzen verursacht und mich an einer  Reconstruction gehindert . Wenn man dies "einfach" herauszeichnen kann,  versteht man das System , bauch keine Schaltung oder Zeichnung  und kann dies "aus dem Kopf heraus" nachzeichnen und nachbauen.    Misserfolge , entstehen aus komplizierten Denken!  Fehler an dem Versuch , kompliziert zu folgen!  Erfolg ?  Hinsetzen , nachzeichnen ! Solange dass dies jeweils  einfacher wird und damit die "Grundidee" hervorkommt ,  die der Erfinder "m?glicherweise" zuerst im Kopf hatte,  bevor die "Darstellung" kompliziert wurde.
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Hello Ronotte
fit yourself on that you not too much work with a new design makes. this looks the more complicated, all the more error you can insert AND errors for THAT will all the more make to that that to copy want. Drawing a Toroid of ring meets if mA 2 further suggest and, ate this describes geanu parallel to everyone reels first Rimges is attached. Further one must know that everyone of the 3 colors a coil has exactly opposite those is just as parallel attached. (Or with you differently?) All coil windings of the control F1 Fe F3 take place in the clockwise direction and the exits on the other side of the coil (in the clockwise direction) Furthermore man must know when copying that not only number of turns with all to be, but still more importantly also that must Sense of coil (direction of rotation of the wire). All exits of the coils are connected with (+ Battery) (?). lle entrances with F1,2,3 control voltages the one sqarewave control use ?in this case? 3 different frequencies needs. I think if you the Scaltung in such a way ?simpletons? draw and describe that dan errors in design and reproductions become ?minimized?. ------------------- I found NOW out: If I the ?Coler coil? MAGNETSTROMAPPARAT ?, also differently, know I draw the complicated ways of the connections zudnen still 2 different kinds of magnetic pole coil belong also understand!! The sight of the circuit has in usual representation for me only 3 years headache causes and me at one Reconstruction prevented. If one can draw this from ?simply?, one does not understand the system, belly circuit or design and this can ?by heart out? after-draw and copy. Failures, develop from complicated thinking! Error at the attempt, complicates to follow! Success? Put, after-draw! So long that this in each case and thus the ?philosophy? becomes simpler comes out, those the inventor ?possibly? first in the head had, before the ?representation? was complicated.

Think simpel , to find all simpel way?s.
G.P.

[CTG Labs]

Ok, everyone.

Firstly the collectors can be connected in series for more voltage or parallel for more current.  This matters not, it is not really critical, just depends on your own design.  Although you could put them in series to get more voltage while its building up, then the controller can switch them in to parallel once the running level is found or something, dont worry too much, just put them in series for now.

@Dean, if you read Gn0sis.com you will see information there from SM via Mannix that says the tube models he used and the tube amp he used OF WHICH HE HAD 3.  Because each was fed its own frequency and these were sent to the coils.  Mixing three frequencys is the key and it comes from SM, not me.  But you did your homework I guess as you have already tried all this and it didn't work, so I guess Lindsay is lieing about it aye?

Perhaps Lindsay will comment on this here, thats up to him.

I dont think you should go quiet until you find it, I think you should also post what doesnt work so that people will not have to do three times as much work.

But like I said, this info comes from SM, if people dont want to beleive this info, then you may as well throw away everything else that Lindsay has posted in the past too.

Perhaps you have some thoughts on this without putting me down, to talk properly?  You clearly know what you are talking about, so I don't understand why we can't have a proper conversation rather than this tit for tat.


Regards,

Dave.