12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

johnny874 · January 19, 2012, 02:08:58 PM

Quote from: Cloxxki on January 19, 2012, 12:17:23 PM
Too good to be true to be found in 2012. Good luck with that math. You can't get a gain by just making things more complicated. I gave up such thoughts some time ago.

It's not more complicated until it needs to be built. It is a thought on how to transfer force in a way that increases it's potential. A CW can not amplify potential. It's lift and drop are the same.
I do have what I have been working on and Tom's idea (self repeating pendulum) could work. Maybe someone will try it.
Have fun with Alan.
Bye

Cloxxki · January 19, 2012, 03:56:44 PM

Don't ever try and drag me into you little pathetic arguments with anyone. I'm my own person, and very well capable to get people to deteste me for reason between them and me. Your problem with Alan is your business, and your business only, as it lives 99% inside you. Keep it to yourself. Again: don't drag me into that mess. I am not asking nicely.

johnny874 · January 19, 2012, 04:31:31 PM

Cloxxki,
It is Tom's idea, he is also known as webby1, has nothing to do with Alan.
And it is a better idea than what is being discussed in this thread, it actually might work.
Of course, you could be mentioning Alan as a way out of considering someone's idea
that has merit. I can see why Tom doesn't post much in here.
What I do like is that people from Europe have never been bothered by Alan's attacks on me. Not even Helmut when me and him would be discussing something. Alan would be saying how stupid it was that I thought math could help. And yet, Helmut now says the same thing you do, you are your own man.
I think it's funny he can ridicule engineering the way he does. Could be why rlortie removed him from his build group. At least one person besides myself has been willing to stand up to him. And look at this forum now, it's DEAD.
As for me, I can build if I want to. I have put much time and effort into working out the best way to construct what I've been pursuing on my own. The idea has never been well liked in these forums.
By the way, there is a chance that Neptune is Alan. If so, I think it is funny he would create another log in like he did in besslerwheel to post with.
But I am finished with this forum. What the pendulum concept was for as I mentioned previously was for pumping water. And the weight on the pendulum does have it's greatest potential at a 90 degree angle to the pump's lever. Makes it easier on people who need to use it because they lack running water.
But for purposes of work, it's greatest potential is when the weight starts dropping. And everyone has missed this for about 128 pages or so. Think of it this way, the pendulum can act as a lever itself and not need it's energy transfered by another lever. But that is engineering and it does seem to be poorly understood.
Who ever you discuss things with, hope you have a good time.

Bye

edited to change structure of a sentence, clarified what it was I could build.

johnny874 · January 19, 2012, 05:05:30 PM

Cloxxki,
I do have better things to do with my time. I have had serious medical issues and still have a ways to go. That is more important to me than this.
But as I told Alan, it is possible I will do the build I have been pursuing and not make it known. After all, look at the negativity that has been attached to it. And do I think it will work ? it is very well supported by accepted principles in engineering. After all, they say you can't cheat the laws of physics. That is why I took the time to learn them. Read a few books.
Mt 20 is what lead me to understand the principle. Everyone has looked at the same drawing I have but missed a very important behavior. And when considering other drawings, by considering the same behavior, realization slowly settled in and I knew Bessler did do it.
But between here and besslerwheel.com, it's a sad joke. Since rlortie has a shop, was hoping to get him interested in it. But someone kept ridiculing the idea, only way to be in control I guess.

Auf Wiedersehen!

edited to add; Cloxxki, my dad who is from Norway wanted me to do this. It could be he thought that with my hearing loss, it would help me.
Of course, the first time I fished, I was dropping nets in the fjords of Norway. Not exactly an American thing. I actually lived there. Some Americans don't like people like me. I figure between my hearing loss and having slightly different cultural values from being my fathers son, can't quite conform.
It is funny in a way, Bessler was half German and half Polish. Could be why he had the ingenuity to realize it.

Cloxxki · January 20, 2012, 05:51:04 AM

Quote from: johnny874 on January 19, 2012, 05:05:30 PM
Cloxxki,
I do have better things to do with my time. I have had serious medical issues and still have a ways to go. That is more important to me than this.
But as I told Alan, it is possible I will do the build I have been pursuing and not make it known. After all, look at the negativity that has been attached to it. And do I think it will work ? it is very well supported by accepted principles in engineering. After all, they say you can't cheat the laws of physics. That is why I took the time to learn them. Read a few books.
Mt 20 is what lead me to understand the principle. Everyone has looked at the same drawing I have but missed a very important behavior. And when considering other drawings, by considering the same behavior, realization slowly settled in and I knew Bessler did do it.
But between here and besslerwheel.com, it's a sad joke. Since rlortie has a shop, was hoping to get him interested in it. But someone kept ridiculing the idea, only way to be in control I guess.

Auf Wiedersehen!

edited to add; Cloxxki, my dad who is from Norway wanted me to do this. It could be he thought that with my hearing loss, it would help me.
Of course, the first time I fished, I was dropping nets in the fjords of Norway. Not exactly an American thing. I actually lived there. Some Americans don't like people like me. I figure between my hearing loss and having slightly different cultural values from being my fathers son, can't quite conform.
It is funny in a way, Bessler was half German and half Polish. Could be why he had the ingenuity to realize it.

Again, with the self pity and blaming others. I've been patient and you know it.

You evidently do not have better things to do, at least not when on OU websites. It's all about your obsession over Alan, and your self-pity. You have no idea how shitty the lives of some of the posters on here may be. They just don't drag it into what should be scientific discussions.
You're allowing emotions and weaknesses to take away from your inventing, and the respect this community can offer you.
I'm not especially a fan of Alan's grumpy old man's attitude myself, but actually liken that to your broken record drama queen act. Man up, and share the good stuff you've got to share.
You should look at Stephen Hawking. His work may be off sometimes, as is yours. But try and catch him on self-pity.

I like you more when you talk experimental science.