12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[ltseung888]

Another attempt to explain Lead-out energy using the example of Milkovic 2SO.

Let us view the device from the outside.

The potential energy gained by the lifted weight on the LHS = m1gh1.  Part of this gained energy must be used to return the pendulum setup to its original position.

The potential energy required to return the pendulum setup to it original position = m2gh2

Thus the net energy gained per oscillation is m1gh1 - m2gh2.

The design of the best Milkovic 2SO should be small m2 and small h2.  If h1=h2, then m2 should be much smaller than m1.  With the static setup, when m1 is greater than m2, m1 will not be lifted.  It requires the dynamic motion when the Centrifugal Force added to m2g is greater than m1g for the weight m1 to be lifted. 

This happens at large angle of swing and/or long pendulum string.

The Chan wheel is superior in that the radius (string equivalent) can be fixed and the angular velocity (rotational speed) can be increased.

noonespecial is right.  The Chan Wheel does need some movement (second degree of motion) to show the energy gain.  Varying the force by itself will not do any work.  Work or energy = force x displacement.  The displacement can be in one direction or can oscillate (move in two directions).  The displacement can also be transferred into circular motion as in the case of the Tsinghua University or Chas Campbell Energy Multiplier.

Hope the explanations make the Lead-out energy theory clearer...

[MarkE]

Another attempt to explain Lead-out energy using the example of Milkovic 2SO.

Let us view the device from the outside.

Better yet, account for all the starting state energy and all the energy at any subsequent state.  If you do the measurements and math correctly, none of the subsequent states exceed the total energy at the starting state.  The energy will in fact be less at each step due to heat losses to the environment.

You can shift your coins from one pocket to another as many times as you like and you never end up with more total money.  Eventually your pockets wear out and the coins "lead out".

Morality point:  Bad accounting leads-out incorrect answers.

The potential energy gained by the lifted weight on the LHS = m1gh1.  Part of this gained energy must be used to return the pendulum setup to its original position.

The potential energy required to return the pendulum setup to it original position = m2gh2

Thus the net energy gained per oscillation is m1gh1 - m2gh2.

The design of the best Milkovic 2SO should be small m2 and small h2.  If h1=h2, then m2 should be much smaller than m1.  With the static setup, when m1 is greater than m2, m1 will not be lifted.  It requires the dynamic motion when the Centrifugal Force added to m2g is greater than m1g for the weight m1 to be lifted. 

Here you have conflated force and energy.  If you do not keep your terms straight, you will never get the accounting right.

This happens at large angle of swing and/or long pendulum string.

The Chan wheel is superior in that the radius (string equivalent) can be fixed and the angular velocity (rotational speed) can be increased.

noonespecial is right.  The Chan Wheel does need some movement (second degree of motion) to show the energy gain.  Varying the force by itself will not do any work.  Work or energy = force x displacement.  The displacement can be in one direction or can oscillate (move in two directions).  The displacement can also be transferred into circular motion as in the case of the Tsinghua University or Chas Campbell Energy Multiplier.

Hope the explanations make the Lead-out energy theory clearer...

[ltseung888]

From Patrick Kelly's Book.

I am not surprised if Chas Campbell tried the self run. With tinkering, it may work some of the time. 

With the Tsinghua setup and the Lead-out energy to back up, it will work all the time.

I like Patrick's words:

Where excess energy is flowing in from the local environment.

In the diagram of reply 2648, note the comment that the belt was not fully tight.  This provides the unbalancing oscillation.  I do not think that it is the best arrangement.  It makes replication almost impossible.  It also makes moving the equipment around (re-assemble) very difficult.  We had the same experience with the Tong Wheel.  It required much tuning.  When it was transported and re-assembled, it did not always work.  Much tuning was required.

That may explain why Mark D did not see the Chas Campbell results in his visit.

The unbalanced wheel or cylinder is much better.

[ltseung888]

The improved and modified Tsinghua or Chas Campbell experiment.

We can add the self-run feature to the experiment.  When the Generator is running full speed, switch AC power supply to the Generator.  Then run the load for at least 2 weeks.

Then announce to the World.  Tsinghua University obviously will get most of the credit - especially if the experiment is done or announced at Tsinghua.

I expect the experiment will work.  Much data will be generated.  The Unbalanced Cylinder will get Worldwide Scientific attention.

Many for-profit organizations will use the self-run feature to promote packaged products...

Tesla Motors (and other electric car manufacturers) will have self-charging cars.

[DreamThinkBuild]

Hi Lawrence,

Instead of lifting weight, displace it in a balanced center seeking system. Much like rocking a boat.

Attached (zip) is a sim of a balanced system, unbalanced through centripetal force. The cone spins while the heavy cylinder is free to whip around inside.