12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[Dingus Mungus]

I understand simulation is a poor excuse for evidence of anything... But, Measuring such variables in physical reality is infinitely more difficult and expensive. In the mean time I'm just looking for patterns in different configurations. I hope to eventually find the geometry required to match the oscilating pendulums and stationary pendulums phase. Once I can get them running in phase, it will further enforce my arguement, show a maxium output, and make a good guide for replication.

~Dingus

[Fingal]

A 'traditional' mathematical analysis of the problem.
http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendtutor1.htm,
done a few years ago.

Haven't seen this reference on the forum before, hope it is not a repost.
Conclusion in the analysis is, with standard laws applied no OU,
but do propose some method for measuring the effectivness of the system.

Fingal

[Dingus Mungus]

That page descibes a stationary pedulum...
We've already realized they're not OU, but
to do the same math for this system would
be infinitely more difficult. Not it!

Thanks for the info though,
~Dingus

[Fingal]

Sorry, I gave the first link only.
http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendan1.htm,
http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendan2.htm,
http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/veljkomeasurement.htm
excercise the traditional math for the dual mechanical oscillation system.
The pages are linked with arrow on top and bottom.

My thought was that, if anybody use a SW simulation for the problem,
simulation softwares would probably be using the same mathematical basis.

regards
Fingal

[Dingus Mungus]

Well, the purposed method of measurement is nothing more than loads of friction... Spring loaded catch draggin over gear teeth. Each component would further rob the device of energy. So I don't see it as an accurate or even relevant experiment. Why not extract minimal power from it and see if it swings for as long or longer then a stationary pendulum...

You should ask that websites owner to do the math for my my last simulation and then post their excuses here. That way its clear to the other users there is no physical math backing up their/your position on the site. Only the laws of physics are on your side, and they've been updated and changed a few times...

~Dingus