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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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noonespecial

Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 04, 2015, 08:22:54 PM
Lawrence:

Here is an easy experiment for you.  Drive your car as you normally would for a few miles.  Note how hard you need to push on the accelerator pedal to get to certain speeds.  Make some mental notes of this at different speeds...say...20...30...40...mph.
Now, not only do you remove the balancing wheel weights on your tires, you need to tape a 1 pound weight on the inside edge of each wheel.
Repeat the above experiment and then tell me how an unbalanced wheel adds energy into a system.  I believe you will find that even doing 10 mph with your unbalanced wheels will take more effort from your engine...not to mention making the vehicle very unstable and dangerous.  I would not suggest that you even try it at 30 or 40 mph as it would be very dangerous.  You will get my point at lower speeds and see that you need much more effort from your engine (ie. less efficient) using unbalanced wheels than with your balanced wheels.

This is easy to determine and might stop you from promoting this false assumption you keep making.  If what you are claiming is true, then your mileage would double on your car with the unbalance wheels and we both know that is not going to happen.

Bill

Hello Bill,

Your example reminds me of Mr. Skinner's machine. I don't know if anyone has ever resolved whether it really works or not.

However, your point about the unbalance requiring more power didn't seem to show up in Mr. Skinner's device. As I'm sure you know, his machine was 4 sets of unbalanced weights or actually, 2 sets of 2 rotating, opposing weights that were always 180 degrees out of phase. Overall, the entire machine was perfectly balanced and if we believe the video, driven by a thin thread.

Best,
Charlie

ltseung888

Quote from: noonespecial on March 04, 2015, 10:24:36 PM
Hello Bill,

Your example reminds me of Mr. Skinner's machine. I don't know if anyone has ever resolved whether it really works or not.

However, your point about the unbalance requiring more power didn't seem to show up in Mr. Skinner's device. As I'm sure you know, his machine was 4 sets of unbalanced weights or actually, 2 sets of 2 rotating, opposing weights that were always 180 degrees out of phase. Overall, the entire machine was perfectly balanced and if we believe the video, driven by a thin thread.

Best,
Charlie

Good observation, Charlie.

When I use the terms Unbalanced Wheel or Unbalanced Cylinder, I do not mean ANY unbalancing.  The value of the unbalanced weight need to be carefully selected and determined experimentally.

We know that the unbalanced weight will contribute to the Centrifugal Force.  The formula is:

F = m*R*w*w where m = mass, R = radius and w = angular velocity.

The Milkovic 2SO, Chan Wheel, Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier, William Skinner Device, etc. all use such Centrifugal Force to lead-out gravitational energy. 

Blindly use any unbalancing weight is like shooting in the dark...

But having a platform to obtain data to get to the right value is scientifically sound...

Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

memoryman

Please show ANY device using gravity as an 'energy source' producing MORE energy out than in; using unbalance will not matter.

Pirate88179

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 05, 2015, 11:53:28 AM
Good observation, Charlie.

When I use the terms Unbalanced Wheel or Unbalanced Cylinder, I do not mean ANY unbalancing.  The value of the unbalanced weight need to be carefully selected and determined experimentally.

We know that the unbalanced weight will contribute to the Centrifugal Force.  The formula is:

F = m*R*w*w where m = mass, R = radius and w = angular velocity.

The Milkovic 2SO, Chan Wheel, Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier, William Skinner Device, etc. all use such Centrifugal Force to lead-out gravitational energy. 

Blindly use any unbalancing weight is like shooting in the dark...

But having a platform to obtain data to get to the right value is scientifically sound...

Lawrence:

But earlier you were saying that both an unbalanced wheel and a loose drive belt lead out overunity.  I responded that an unbalanced wheel is less efficient as is a loose (slipping) belt.  Please show me ANY device that works as you describe that has been proven to work.  By proven I mean vetted by a reliable third party which would exclude Sterling.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

MarkE

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 05, 2015, 11:53:28 AM
Good observation, Charlie.

When I use the terms Unbalanced Wheel or Unbalanced Cylinder, I do not mean ANY unbalancing.  The value of the unbalanced weight need to be carefully selected and determined experimentally.

We know that the unbalanced weight will contribute to the Centrifugal Force.  The formula is:

F = m*R*w*w where m = mass, R = radius and w = angular velocity.

The Milkovic 2SO, Chan Wheel, Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier, William Skinner Device, etc. all use such Centrifugal Force to lead-out gravitational energy. 
No, none of those devices do any such thing.
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Blindly use any unbalancing weight is like shooting in the dark...

But having a platform to obtain data to get to the right value is scientifically sound...