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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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Marcel

Quote from: supersam on December 07, 2006, 02:00:29 PM
marcel,

what three frquencies ended up being used to create the perfect machine in your sims?  i was just wondering if these might be used in a soid state setup?  have you even thought about what might be accomplished if you didn't have the restrictions of friction that you will have in a mechanical deevice?  just wondering!!!!

lol
sam
I think 3 frequencies are a minimum to generate harmonic oscillations. Maybe using strong magnets instead springs to avoid frictions.
The software WM2d cannot compute repelling magnetic fields. ( The repel force between two magnet is not linear instead springs... It is inverse square of distance... and I cannot define this parameter in WM2d.)
Friction forces of the bearings and air friction have been added in simulation. So the system stops after 1 hour! And never stops if frictions are set to 0.
I have to find a system to power a little bit the pendulum ( when it is at his higher position ) with an electro-magnet or a little motor.
For me, the Milovik's videos are very convincing and the question needs to be examined in more detail to achieve overnunity.
Anyway, simulation can help for design but it will never affirm the system will work as expected.
A new design will be added very soon.

FreeEnergy


gyulasun

Quote from: FreeEnergy on December 10, 2006, 05:46:48 AM
im thinking of building this in a vertical fashion. :)

The upper bar would move like a metronome, right?

Ok, but:

I think that in the Milkovic system the basic property of a swinging pendulum is used what I cannot see in your vertical setup.

This property is as follows: when you start a pendulum in rest at 6 o'clock to swing towards either 9 or 3 o'clock by your hand, the weigth of the pendulum's mass changes from its maximum weigth at rest to an almost weightless state at the 9 or 6 o'clock positions. And if you suspend/hold the pendulum's thread in you own  hand, you could feel this periodically changing force and THIS CHANGING FORCE IS what moves the lever up and down.
In your vertical setup, if I see it well, there is a pivot (the upper one) which holds the bar and also takes up the force the pendulum's changing weigth exercises so most of the force the swinging gives is absorbed by that pivot. Of course your upper bar will swing but somehow I feel you lose a lot of force the pendulum can provide with a movable pivot solution like in Milkovic setup.

rgds
Gyula


dean_mcgowan

when i pulled my sister back on the swing before i gave her that first push .. i kinda remember that that!!! was the hard part, the little pushes afterward were quite easy.. maybe i should watch the video again .. to see if i am missing where that original work is being dones in this equation ...