12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[tagor]

I can only disagree to what you have said here, as this clearly demonstrates an incredibly easy way to collect more energy

what you say is so so so funny !!
if it is so easy to collect more energy ? so can you tell me , they work on this mecanical dual oscillation for 30 years and they have done a self runner ?

it is easy or not easy that is the question ?

Tell me why you think the pendulum is in some way diminishing its energy to the hinge, as their motions is totaly unrelated to each other and unable of affecting each other.

you are totaly wrong
the 2 motions are totaly = related
but they are mecanicaly unrelated

[Nabo00o]

what you say is so so so funny !!
if it is so easy to collect more energy ? so can you tell me , they work on this mecanical dual oscillation for 30 years and they have done a self runner ?

it is easy or not easy that is the question ?

you are totaly wrong
the 2 motions are totaly = related
but they are mecanicaly unrelated

Its not easy, there you have it.
To make it be a self-runner you need to very accuratly time the hinge to pull or do something else which in turn can add energy to the pendulum for each turn, and not disturb or even halt it if the adjustments are done wrong.
I guess the man that created these machines wasn't interested in using a lot of time to make them drive themself when he easly could demonstrate the principle that made these machines exhibit an increased output of energy, (which is the force of gravity and centrifugal force in a state of ocsillation) which then would make people wanna try to do it for themselfs, at least it might be the reason

You can say that the moition of the pendulum and the hinge is connected, but still not all true since the pendulums swing doesn't directly add energy to the hinge, but the weight increase and decrease does, but is not related to the speed or "load" of the swing.
I mean, it wouldn't matter if the hinge stayed stationary all the time or if it was in full motion, the pendulum would swing with the same energy because no resistance or load was directly connected to the swing.

Therefore, the pendulum will continiously add energy to the hinge, no matter if you use it or not, and since the extraction of energy from the hinge doesn't affect the total energy of the pendulum you can say that they are not directly affected by each other, at least in one direction.

The way I see the mechanics of this is that when you add a pressure to the pendulum you can then collect the same presure in the hinge but in much larger quantities as it causes no drag on the pendulum.

I don't see any problem with this, of course though it remains to be tested to see if it can run itself, but as I see it its only a matter of skill and not a matter of limitation. I actually got a very crude drawing of a system which could in 'theory' make it run itself, mabye when I get the time I will try to build it

[tagor]

To make it be a self-runner you need to very accuratly time the hinge to pull or do something else which in turn can add energy to the pendulum for each turn,

i do a dual oscillation peuduleum
a coil give a pull, each turn , to the oscillation system
the input is 1Volt and some mili amps !!  it is truly very easy to do it
but if the pull is week , the dual oscillation stops !!
the link beetween the 2 oscillations is very real , not virtual !!!

have you try what you say ?

Therefore, the pendulum will continiously add energy to the hinge, no matter if you use it or not,

this is totaly false !
do you know something of physics ? what is the conservation of energy ?

if you don t understand what hapen in this oscillation
you need to try and verify  all your theory by yourself

[Nabo00o]

i do a dual oscillation peuduleum
a coil give a pull, each turn , to the oscillation system
the input is 1Volt and some mili amps !!  it is truly very easy to do it
but if the pull is week , the dual oscillation stops !!
the link beetween the 2 oscillations is very real , not virtual !!!

have you try what you say ?

this is totaly false !
do you know something of physics ? what is the conservation of energy ?

if you don t understand what hapen in this oscillation
you need to try and verify  all your theory by yourself

I know that law very well and I also know that there are many experiments that is supposed be violating it.
The way I had thought of making it run by itself was purly mechanical and not electrical like you did, because it would be alot more easy and clear to understand, no need of messuring the input voltage/amps versus output and many other variables.
Also, mabye you didn't understand what i said.
The speed, power and resistance of the pendulum is totaly independent of the movment, power and resistance of the hinge.
It does not directly add energy to it, only indirectly via weight, and will not possibly by any means be loaded by the hinge (please test that claim for youself if you do not belive me).
And I thougth you understood that the whole point of this machine was that it broke that law (at least to the extent of what is known to us), and so creating more energy than input by us (not the total energy input).
I also thought that was the purpose of this site, but of course everyone should be allowed to be sceptical of claims that seems to good to be true.

[utilitarian]

I know that law very well and I also know that there are many experiments that is supposed be violating it.

There is not a single experiment that demonstrates violation of the principle of conservation of energy.  If there was, it would be the biggest scientific news to come about in a long time.  Do you have any examples we do not know about?