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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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Nabo00o

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 08, 2009, 02:22:46 PM
Storing mechanical energy in either X, Y, Z transference directions even with leverage, it is still storing energy, the device just uses the stored energy more efficiently but it will not produce more energy than what is stored. that's why it stops.

it doesn't matter how elaborate you make a stored energy device, it by any other name is still a stored energy device.

Jerry ::)

Then why don't we just stop our search for free energy all together, after all we are just trying manipulate/store/transform energy in one way or another, but all the same basic laws still apply.

Ultimately it is not efficient energy storage we are utilizing here.
Just as with all other inventions of the like we are not trying to create energy but make more of it accessible for use, there is a conservation, only it is in a way which Newton would never understand. He wouldn't even be close to understand the present ideas of particle physics and bent space-time.

There are very few here of those who have talked so loud about how they "know" that this machine operates, but who still also mention its strikingly reverse relationship towards any load placed on it.
This fact alone will quickly make most of you realize why this machine can go far above unity, in terms of what you put in versus environmental input(COP).

If you build this thing up in resonance, giving it more and more energy stored in the pendulum up to a point (other designs can increase with practically no limit), you will as opposed to the common scenario not drain the oscillation of the energy equal to that which you put in, this is because there is only losses (mainly) due to the displacement of the pendulum axis. Because of this single fact, force used to push a load *WILL NOT* equal the force exerted back on the pendulum, to decelerate it.

If you can use your mind you do not even need to build a model to see this, just imagine the machine first without a load, then with a load and lastly with a maximum load.
This is in my mind a scientific demonstration device which will show (when properly constructed) how you can actually brake the normally assumed Newtons third law of motion.

Btw this machine is not needed in order to prove this, you can easily create an inertial propulsion device which would create a constant acceleration without any mass leaving, you would just need to place it in a box and the box would move.

I can promise you, there is much more to be heard about this machine! As a demonstration device, it will show how resonance will finally be connected with free energy, as it is the natural way to amplify power.

Wish you all the best,
Julian
Static energy...
Dynamic energy...
Two forms of the same.

onthecuttingedge2005

Hi Naboo.

No, I just didn't want anybody to think it was OU, I was just making sure is all, some get it mixed up. sorry, I'll be on my way.

Cheeri'O
Jerry

Cloxxki

Nabo00o,
How do you visualize a load being put on the pendulum(s), where the primary pendulum does not lose amplitude? Surely, this will require the most advanced of timings, and aims?
So far, I've only seen demonstrations where the primary did require further well-timed (albeit gentle taps of) input.
Or IS the 2-stage oscillator already what I am asking for? It still requires a high initial displacement of the primary, and sees swing amplitude reduction be converted into a smaller ampliture vertical pendulum, be it if equal or greater weight.

If you see a way (and/or specific moment) to extract work from the 2-stage pendulum, while positively enhancing the amplitude of the primary (via benificial mounting point displacement), I think this is the best of stages to propose it.
I, for one, am all ears.

Regards,
J

Paul-R

Quote from: Nabo00o on August 08, 2009, 09:54:57 PM
Then why don't we just stop our search for free energy all together, after all we are just trying manipulate/store/transform energy in one way or another, but all the same basic laws still apply.
You've missed the point. The Law of Conservation of Energy requires that ALL forms of energy be considered, and that includes forms of energy that you do not know about yet.

You should study the Nobel Physics prizewinners for 1957 and Hal Puthoff. Agaslnce at http://www.cheniere.org would be good along
with http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk

Nabo00o

Jerry, well I strongly believe that nothing (energy or information) can ever be created without a source, so my point was that this also goes for any other form of mechanical or electrical device, non can ever be true over unity, but they can use the sources already existing.

@Cloxxki, I didn't say that we could extract energy from the swinging pendulum without any loss, but I am saying that this machine will only make those losses a matter distance and displacement, not of force.
This is of huge importance if we can increase the continuous force which this pendulum exerts by swinging it in resonance with its natural cycle, which is what we do when we push it each time.

Since the now much stronger force will not be blocked by an equal large force every time we make it do work, we will in effect have a mechanical amplifier which do not need its working energy from us, in principle it only needs our triggering signal if we make it efficient enough.
This along with many other experiments proves to me that that energy is in reality nothing else but different combinations of information, structured in such a way as to create the reactions that we are used to, but they will only behave this way when the information combinations are in the relationship which we are used to, say in the physical world on Earth.

This in itself is of course just a theory or an idea, it is not the reason to why I believe the 2-stage oscillator works. Also to answer your question, we do not need an extremely accurate triggering system to make use of this amplifier, other designs exists which could simplify its operation tremendously. It would also at the same time make the friction and inefficiencies close to zero...

@Paul-R
Paul, I was just trying to make a point, because it isn't that simple.
And I did learn about T. Bearden a while ago, his ideas or more precisely, his work to combine several already existing works in the different fields did really open my mind.
And my main point was that all energy is conserved, but energy exists not only in different forms but does also enter from somewhere, this somewhere as you know is the virtual particle flux.

This is actually very important to include in the explanation of this device, or else some could actually have believed that this machine got its energy from nowhere!


But I do believe that the 2-stage oscillator is not only reserved to the mechanical Milkociv device, this principle does also fit perfectly with sound wave resonators and the Rotorverter (lately a transverter has also been made). They are all using the two-stage separation of oscillations to invoke a conditions which allows an amplification of its original source. I belive in time this will be much more clear to us...

Julian
Static energy...
Dynamic energy...
Two forms of the same.