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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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bsrinon

Hi Gyula,

I'd really like to test the drawing also. Maybe my wife will let me convert her old HealthRider excercise machine into one of these pendulum devices.

http://www.healthrider.com/?BN=13350&GCID=S14083x016&KEYWORD=healthrider

There's lot's of lever points and places to put weights on it. I just have to stand it on end and maybe do some cutting and welding to convert it. But she would probably kill me if I messed around with it.

Brian

Dingus Mungus

@Dean
The starting and ending positions of the objects are all sightly different. But those changes were imparted only after dropping the pendulum. I do know a significant portion of the energy is coming from the flexible levers self oscillations when the  pendulum drop occurs. The dampers will resist when stretched or compressed. So I assume they put no energy back, and they only take energy as I understand it. I'm new to this app, and I don't have a full copy of WM2D so I can not save yet! :(

BTW I tried coupling this system to a flywheel for days and discovered that since the frequencies of each component are dropping in value constantly, it is very difficult to keep the wheel and lever working together in a unidirectional manor.

~Dingus

supersam

HEY,

has anyone given any consideration to tapping the lever power at the axel with a one way gear, like a crank shaft bearing, on a eighteen speed bicycle?  the free running back axel could be used to swing the pendulem on the down sroke or the upstroke, depending on how you sat it up and you would have aq number of gears to play with as well.

i know i can get these bicycle's for about a dollar u.s. at any goodwill store.  it even looked like one of milkovic's set ups was made with a frame off an old bicycle.  i don't know if he ever tried to use the crank and back axel to swing his pendulem to close the loop.

i can,t wait to get back to my shop to give it a try!!!!

lol
sam

bsrinon

Sam,

Excellent idea with the one way bicycle gearing. That would work perfectly for this setup!

Brian

2tiger

Hi all
If you are trying to close the loop don?t use a crank with a flywheel. The mass of the flywheel will create a back drag on the lever and influence the swinging pendulum.
In my opinion the pendulum has to swing free in order to create this effect (12 times more ...).
The crank will also synchronize this device and I?m sure that this is not what we are looking for.
Stefan mentioned this before in one of his replies, that here is a kind of phase shifting in play.
The idea with the one way gear in the center of the lever seems very good to me.
But I would also try this one you see in the pic. With parts of a harddisk-drive, the read/write head.

add:
In that way you can tap the energy directly form the coil and mantain the swinging motion.

You can also align a few of them. In series or even in parallel if you want.

kr
2Tiger