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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

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Xaverius

Quote from: Rhead100 on September 23, 2009, 03:35:09 PM
Just in case anyone is interested. We have started back to work on the 2 stage oscillator and are building the towers to house the escapement mecanisums for the feed back system to try to compleat the loop.
If anyone has any ideas,  I am wide open to suggestions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_wQXJ41ks&feature=channel_page

        Raymond    RHead100
Nice work Raymond, I too have been researching the escapement/clock movement theory for the feedback loop.  If I come up with any new information I'll let you know.  Good job!

Rhead100

Hi fellows;  This is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Mr. Milkovic this morning.  I will post the responce as soon as I recieve it.  He always respondes to my e-mails. But it does take a little time as he has to have them translated into his native toung (Serbian).   SO;  Don't get your painties in na wadd if it take a few days.  HAHAHA  !!!!!!!


Mr.  Milkovic;

Dear Sir;;;    I have uploaded three videos to you tube.  The first two are of a video that you already have but has been split so it will fit  on you tube.  The only differance is that in the discription to the right of the video  has  a little more detail as to the understanding of the importance of the leingth of the pendulum Verses it's power out put in time relation.
Please read the discription to the right of the first two videos and let me know your views on this mater.

The third video is a new one and at this time not of much importance.  We are back,  working on the 2 stage oscillator and getting ready to try and compleit the loop to have it power itself.

Please foregive my Boldness.  But when,  (not if)   I complet the feed back loop and have the machine powering itself.  I will reviel to the world. My designs and plans for a multie phayse  2 stage oscillator that will produce many times more power per unit size. With  much less strain and vibration on the main framwork.

I said in one of my videos that   " every time I try something new with the 2 stage oscillator. It never fails to amaze me."
I have tried many more new things after that video and my words still hold true to this day.  Every thing new that I try .   Meets or exceeds my expectations.
I am  100%  sure. Any attempt to make the machine power itself that fails.  Proves, only, ONE THING.   "The attempt was flawed.".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMq53NPttUk&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQv1Z6Tbyus&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_wQXJ41ks&feature=channel_page


                                     Your most dedacated fan, and student     Raymond L. Head

Rhead100

As promised, I am posting the responces from Mr. Milkovic on my e-mails to him on the 24th of Sept. 2009.  There were two e-mail responces.
One on the new video of the larger fram for the escapement towers. And the other on the discription to the right of the videos "A&B" about the higher the pendulum the more weight it will pick up.

First E-Mail;;;
Dear Raymond Head,

thank you for informing us on your progress.

We are very glad to see you are making a new bigger prototype and that you are working very hard.
We will carefully follow up your work and we will also inform you on our progress and results.

My opinion is that you are researching very good - you are considering and examining the subject very practically and patiently and that can only lead to success.
Many people has just empty phrases, but only through concrete practical work and tests, as you are doing, this invention can be successfully researched and developed toward our common goal.

Your results so far are more than obvious. You did a lot and you have already achieved the mechanical overunity.
I can just wish you keep up the excellent work. I wish you good health and good luck in future work.

I must admit you are the most successful in examining this pendulum-lever system and its effects. You got to the heart of a matter!
You absolutely proved free energy with your experiments and those who didn't see it they were not honest!

Yours sincerely.
Veljko Milkovic



Second E-Mail;;
Dear Raymond Head,

our Analytical Team has considered your video descriptions and we would like to comment both your observations:



1) The first one was about increasing output weight and thus also output energy with the same input energy and raising starting angle of the pendulum. Yes, it is very logical for us because with initial raising of the starting angle of the pendulum, the pendulum will receive more potential energy and after turning it into kinetic energy at low position its speed will be higher and also centrifugal force will be stronger and able to lift up more weight.



Some people keeps complaining about this initial raising of the pendulum and the energy the pendulum initially received. They claim that it was the reason why some people saw some over unity gain. Actually, they are right. The trick is in using this initial energy and to keep adding small amount after that. After some extended period of the time it is possible to disregard energy spent in initial raising of the pendulum. Of course, it also means that two stage oscillator should not be used for short period of the time because initial raising would tax the oscillator efficiency.



2) The second one was about increasing output energy by extending pendulum length. We actually never measured this and would like to encourage you and other people to do precise measuring of this fact. For us it is logical because by increasing the length of the pendulum two times its frequency would slow down 1.41 times (square root of two) and by increasing length 4 times its frequency (or the period of oscillation) would go down 2 times. The importance of slowing down the period of the oscillation is the fact that heavy weight can not be raised fast up because of its inertia. Some period of the time is necessary to give to the oscillator to raise the weight. Too fast oscillator can not raise heavy weights unless it was extremely powerful.



Sincerely,



Analytical Team of

Laboratory of Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillations Research



Veljko Milkovic Research & Development Center



Bulevar cara Lazara 56

21000 Novi Sad

Serbia

e-mail: milkovic@neobee.net

web: www.veljkomilkovic.com


Cloxxki

Nice replies, good to see the Milkovic team is supporting your efforts.

Regarding that second email. Increasing period also implies increasing initial height, or doesn't it? I seriously wonder where a same-height but doubled period will indeed lift a weight completely, or measurably higher. With a doubled period AND initial height, I would expect the lift to be higher. And indeed if a weight was not lifted completely before, a longer period and greater pendulum amplitude will surely increase the success odds.
Greatly looking forward to your findings with that monstrous(ly cool) device you're building.

Brain fart:
Imagine a relatively long period 1st stage pendulum. Before reaching the center of the swing, a linkage slacks the rod of the pendulum (allows it to extent under gravity and CF), and the pendulum weight dips sharply. Right after center, the linkage extension is reversed. We get the period of the long pedulum, and some added height from the dip in the center. More OU that usual, less, or the same?

Rhead100

Quote from: Cloxxki on September 27, 2009, 06:03:15 PM
Nice replies, good to see the Milkovic team is supporting your efforts.

Regarding that second email. Increasing period also implies increasing initial height, or doesn't it? I seriously wonder where a same-height but doubled period will indeed lift a weight completely, or measurably higher. With a doubled period AND initial height, I would expect the lift to be higher. And indeed if a weight was not lifted completely before, a longer period and greater pendulum amplitude will surely increase the success odds.
Greatly looking forward to your findings with that monstrous(ly cool) device you're building.

Brain fart:
Imagine a relatively long period 1st stage pendulum. Before reaching the center of the swing, a linkage slacks the rod of the pendulum (allows it to extent under gravity and CF), and the pendulum weight dips sharply. Right after center, the linkage extension is reversed. We get the period of the long pedulum, and some added height from the dip in the center. More OU that usual, less, or the same?
I'm Sorry Cloxxki  ;;  But something in your first statment tells me you do not understand the 2 stage oscillator ,  at all.
The power bar is a normal every day lever and it's math is directly proportional.  The power of the pendulum is it's leingth and weight and THAT is exponintal.
The leingth of the pendulum is it's timing and that is directly proportional.
The movment of the pivot point of the pendulm is the extraction point of the power produced by the pendulum. And this movment is a real loss of penulum power BUT it is exponintial.
It is vital that you pick up the max weight with the minamale movement of the pivot point of the pendulum.
To pick up 50 pounds 2 inches is the exact same thing as picking up 100 pounds 1 inch.
For experimental perposes. Almost any pendulum any leingth will work.
However ;;  If you need a particuler job done.  You will need to build the machine ti fit that job.
For example;;;;      I want a force of 25 pounds applied for a distance of 4 inches every two seconds.  I would need a four to one ratio power bar. A two meter pendulum swing. And a pendulum heavy enough to pick up 100 pounds 1 inch. @ a one to one ratio.A 50 to 60 pound pendulum would probably work very well here.This would allow the pivot point of the pendulum to move one inch up & down.
If we double the weight of the pendulum (leaving it's size and shape the same) it will have the same air friction with no need for incressed power input. However the power loss of the up and down motion IS doubled. So we reduce the up and down motion by half and double the ratio of the power bar and the needed input powr is reduced by 65 %. And you get the samre work out of the machine.
As you increes the leingth of the pendulum. You also incress the distance and speed it travles. Incressing air drag.  That is why on very larg machines it would be a great advantage to have a well aerodiamicaly designed pendulum.

    Raymond   RHead100