12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[utilitarian]

We should contact these guys to hear their opinion
http://www.arts.unsw.edu.au/pendulum/

They are the pendulum experts and they, as scientists dedicated to the research of the pendulum motion, must be interested to see/consider if there is something new related to the pendulum.

They shouldn't ignore the existence of this effect because we don't talk here about the theory or mathematical models - we are dealing here with the real models built and everyone can see there is "something" new here.

There is nothing new here.  What you have is a pendulum and a see-saw.  Eventually it stops moving, like predicted.

This is no different from chaos pendulums.  Search for some on youtube and you will see.  To the untrained, they may look impressive and overunity-like, but there is not free energy there, and none here.

Here is one of many examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whvl6CikDxA

[TechStuf]

Utilitarian's right....it's a baa-aaad idea....nothing to see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whvl6CikDxA

moo-oove along.


Utilitarian you sly dog, you.


P.S. Where's the 'chaos'?  Looks highly ordered to me.

[Nabo00o]

Utilitarian, you must stop assuming that we are all still at the basics here, not understanding anything about physics in general. As everyone knows, yes this thing will stop if you push it and leave it alone, friction exists in all mechanical systems.

Secondly we know there is loss in this system, there is in fact energy lost when it is used to provide mechanical power, nobody here (or at least most) disagrees with this.

But the reason why this is not the usual active power versus reactive power (like emf and back emf caused by Lenz's law), or friction against physical work, is that his machine is designed to use the parametrically "induced" oscillation from the pendulum to power the hinge, and it is not as simple as you might expect. A more careful investigation of its operation shows this...

Julian

[utilitarian]

But the reason why this is not the usual active power versus reactive power (like emf and back emf caused by Lenz's law), or friction against physical work, is that his machine is designed to use the parametrically "induced" oscillation from the pendulum to power the hinge, and it is not as simple as you might expect. A more careful investigation of its operation shows this...

Julian

And how is this different from a chaos pendulum?

OK, go ahead and approach a scientist about this.  You will not get even a raised eyebrow.

[Nabo00o]

And how is this different from a chaos pendulum?

OK, go ahead and approach a scientist about this.  You will not get even a raised eyebrow.

A true scientist, if approached with this invention, and if he had the knowledge which could help him grasp the aspects cowered in it, would respond with intriguing interest and ask questions as to why it can do what I claim it to do. If he however, like most in the established scientific community has been learned and taught from the beginning that some things are impossible and that some things should never be questioned, then he will eventually like the kid who was bullied from childhood begin to take the role as the bully, or as the scientist with his unquestionable authority.

I call this dogma, on the same level as religion. We are then weighting the evidence against the important rules and laws that we have been taught, and the laws wins.


Back to the question. What makes you think that this has anything to do with the chaos pendulum?
Please explain why and then we could discuss further.
I'm not trying to be rude here, but lets keep the focus where it should be, and not on unrelated subjects.

Julian