12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[tagor]

Video description says "Veljko Milkovic's Video Message for Rome Free Energy Conference 2010"

but there is nothing new !!!

[Cloxxki]

same old demonstrations, nothing but blah blah blah blah blah, doesn't prove anything, no free energy/overunity here. i guess you can say its an efficient system but that is all. until someone makes a self runner we have nothing. NOTHING!

I agree. If it's so awesome a system, let it place little weights to the same height as the main pendulum was raised. One little weight each time. Surely before the thing runs out of stream, the weights lifted will add up to more than the main pendulum's weight? 12x the main pendulum's weight.

With the little weights, they could be taken from the 2nd stage, and placed on the 1st stage, at the same height. Instant OU and continious movement!  But, it will slow down, quickly. Anything you extact, is gone forever. I'd love to see disproof of that.

[MoRo]

I agree. If it's so awesome a system, let it place little weights to the same height as the main pendulum was raised. One little weight each time. Surely before the thing runs out of stream, the weights lifted will add up to more than the main pendulum's weight? 12x the main pendulum's weight.

With the little weights, they could be taken from the 2nd stage, and placed on the 1st stage, at the same height. Instant OU and continious movement!  But, it will slow down, quickly. Anything you extact, is gone forever. I'd love to see disproof of that.

This is a 2 stage system. If stage 1 (the pendulum) were designed as a frictionless system, then it would power stage 2 (the fulcrum) forever according to Newtons Law. So efficency of the device only has to do with how much friction exist in stage 1 of the device.

[Cloxxki]

This is a 2 stage system. If stage 1 (the pendulum) were designed as a frictionless system, then it would power stage 2 (the fulcrum) forever according to Newtons Law. So efficency of the device only has to do with how much friction exist in stage 1 of the device.

Eh, yes. But they claim 12x more out than in. Just wiggling back and forth in a frictionless environment, ANY object does that.
Powering stage 2 is no big deal. It happens. But any energy you extract from stage 2, like gently pushing a weight off onto the adjecent shelf while at the highest point, will reduced the system's amplitude.
If it is OU, where is the extra energy going in all the setup previously shown? I tryle want to be proven wrong here. If this is good OU, I'll invent devices to make use of it.

[MoRo]

Eh, yes. But they claim 12x more out than in. Just wiggling back and forth in a frictionless environment, ANY object does that.
Powering stage 2 is no big deal. It happens. But any energy you extract from stage 2, like gently pushing a weight off onto the adjecent shelf while at the highest point, will reduced the system's amplitude.
If it is OU, where is the extra energy going in all the setup previously shown? I tryle want to be proven wrong here. If this is good OU, I'll invent devices to make use of it.

Your statements are pretty accurate. I'm not sure were the 12 times slogan came from, But, I do believe that You are comparing apples to oranges...

The device shown by Milkovic needs gravity on both sides (or spring tension on the output) of the system to do any kind of WORK. Gravity is the medium, so its not simply an issue of removing weight from the output side to a shelf were it would then have a potential (non working) state, that would be equivalent to taking the device out of a gravitational field (its medium) and expecting it to still work.  It simply wont work without gravity any more than it would work without pushing the pendulum into a swing. Yes, gravity causes the acceleration AND deceleration of the pendulum, but the Gain (kinetic gain that is) comes from the increased Apparent Mass of the pendulum. The increase comes from Centrifugal Force caused by the angular momentum of the pendulum mass at its maximum speed at the bottom of its swing. Since gravity is what causes the pendulum to accelerate to a speed where centrifugal forces are significant, no energy need be input into the system, short of that required to start and maintain the pendulum  amplitude.  On ether side of the swing however the pendulum mass goes into free fall and so it looses Apparent Mass.  Therefore on the input side of the 2nd stage you get an Apparent Mass Extra Heavy/Apparent Mass Nil cycle. The Work that can be performed by the 2nd sage as a result of this cycle is greater that that required to maintain the 1st stage pendulums amplitude at a desirable swing level.