12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[Alexioco]

A swing is a swing, it does not matter if it swings 10 feet or 5 feet. A swing is easy to sustain once its swinging no matter what distance it swings. Therefore, in the two stage oscillator, SOME of the energy is indeed extracted from the swing into the lever, causing the swing to of slightly decreased, but its still a swing. Over all, there is no increase in energy, but like I said above, so long as its still swinging, it remains easy to sustain, so therefore, the energy extracted from the swing into the lever can then be put into the now slightly reduced swinging pendulum to sustain its swing. Because it retains the power of free movement, you can subtract a certain amount of energy from the pendulum, then put it back into the pendulum just to sustain it. You could probably even increase the pendulums swing through its own swinging. You can probably control if the pendulum is caused to just sustain its current swing or increase via the difference or distance between the two weights.

Because the lever does cause the pendulum to stop swinging earlier than just a single pendulum, it may indeed take slightly more energy to sustain its swing but the energy from the lever should be more than enough evidently from the videos i have seen.

P.S To put it simply, a swinging pendulum that has a swing span of 10 feet is more than enough to sustain itself if, through energy extraction, its swing is reduced to a 5 feet span.

Alex

[AnandAadhar]

A swing is a swing, it does not matter if it swings 10 feet or 5 feet. A swing is easy to sustain once its swinging no matter what distance it swings. Therefore, in the two stage oscillator, SOME of the energy is indeed extracted from the swing into the lever, causing the swing to of slightly decreased, but its still a swing. Over all, there is no increase in energy, but like I said above, so long as its still swinging, it remains easy to sustain, so therefore, the energy extracted from the swing into the lever can then be put into the now slightly reduced swinging pendulum to sustain its swing. Because it retains the power of free movement, you can subtract a certain amount of energy from the pendulum, then put it back into the pendulum just to sustain it. You could probably even increase the pendulums swing through its own swinging. You can probably control if the pendulum is caused to just sustain its current swing or increase via the difference or distance between the two weights.

Because the lever does cause the pendulum to stop swinging earlier than just a single pendulum, it may indeed take slightly more energy to sustain its swing but the energy from the lever should be more than enough evidently from the videos i have seen.

P.S To put it simply, a swinging pendulum that has a swing span of 10 feet is more than enough to sustain itself if, through energy extraction, its swing is reduced to a 5 feet span.

Alex

With every swing you extract energy from the swing and thus reduce the span each time, thus not once. As you said, no energy is won this way. No OU from just a mecahnical feedback on a normal pendulum. Apparently more is needed to rectify gravity. The two stage Milkovic claim of amplification of the input pulse is by experiment not yet proven as defeating this logic. Talk is useless, we need experimental proof.

[Alexioco]

Yeah, I realize that the swing is constantly being reduced, but the output from the lever must be enough to sustain the swing. I'm on a build at the moment to loop the output back into the pendulum. If it fails then there must be something quite interesting to learn from this. The free movement of the pendulum is an important idea in the search for perpetual motion i am sure because Bessler talks about "retaining the power of free movement" which to me means that, the POWER of FREE MOVEMENT is like a pendulum on the two stage oscillator, it swings with its own power even though its got a kind of load on it and it is therefore easy to sustain the swing.

Alex

[AnandAadhar]

Yeah, I realize that the swing is constantly being reduced, but the output from the lever must be enough to sustain the swing. I'm on a build at the moment to loop the output back into the pendulum. If it fails then there must be something quite interesting to learn from this. The free movement of the pendulum is an important idea in the search for perpetual motion i am sure because Bessler talks about "retaining the power of free movement" which to me means that, the POWER of FREE MOVEMENT is like a pendulum on the two stage oscillator, it swings with its own power even though its got a kind of load on it and it is therefore easy to sustain the swing.

Alex

Before you try to construct something you must also try to tell where that extra energy would come from.... the output lever moves because of the pendulum transferring a part of its energy plus the energy that was triggered by it from an unknown source you somehow have to address logically. It must be space energy somehow, but how did you address it? By the lever moving the pivot point alone? Suppose you succeed, then what is your explanation? The pulse transferred to the lever was amplified by what?

[Alexioco]

Before you try to construct something you must also try to tell where that extra energy would come from.... the output lever moves because of the pendulum transferring a part of its energy plus the energy that was triggered by it from an unknown source you somehow have to address logically. It must be space energy somehow, but how did you address it? By the lever moving the pivot point alone? Suppose you succeed, then what is your explanation? The pulse transferred to the lever was amplified by what?

Well, supposing, because the lever is weighted at the end, you extract the energy close to the pivot point of that lever so to get a kind of leverage in order to sustain the pendulum?

P.S Would it be a good idea to post a picture of my simple idea before I finish the build or would that be a bit risky in case the thing worked?


Alex