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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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fletcher

B_E_C_A_U_S_E ... the Center of Mass [CoM] of the unit lowers itself in the first rotation to its lowest position attainable, like has been said - N.B. like a weighted chain pendulum clock coverts Pe to mechanical energy & resistance losses, like has been said.

That means Potential Energy of Position [Pe] is given up & converted to Kinetic Energy [Ke], since Pe = Ke in a gravity field substitution will suffice.

Torque was established by hand setting the device & raising its Pe then the Pe was reduced as the unit CoM lost its Pe of position over the initial revolution leaving it with residual momentum & Ke, as has been said.

The Ke it had after one revolution is diminished by resistance [friction] losses until there is no more Ke, but the Ke it received is the same as the Pe lost by the drop in the units CoM.

The device makes no attempt at Pe restitution ! - so is like letting a ball roll down a track, as has been said.

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When a mass is directly attached to the rim, so that the wheel starts with torque, the CoM is following a circular orbit as it revolves - if there were no system losses the orbit would start & finish at the same height, thus restoring Pe - there are losses however, so the CoM doesn't quite make it back to start height & fully restore Pe, thus the unit doesn't complete one full cycle - "common sense".

What this means is that there isn't a pathway or mechanical arrangement that allows the unit to progressively lower [wind down] the CoM & it is effectively engineered for Pe restoration, which is quite different from the video demonstration of cocked pendulums around a wheel where the mechanics & engineering allows the CoM to loose Pe & wind itself down.

Omnibus

Restoration of Pe is immaterial, as I have already noted. The fact which you also agree with remains, namely, that due to difference in the mechanical construction the same gravitational potential energy gives rise to two different values of kinetic energy.

spinn_MP

Quote from: Omnibus on February 08, 2011, 01:30:26 PM
I know, but, again, a weight attached to the rim can't even cause a full rotation while the same weight attached via a lever and a one-way clutch causes almost three rotations starting from the same height. What do you say to that?

Lol, another one of the trolling Omnibot's (many) historical statements....

I sincerely think that even HE cannot possibly be THAT DUMB... He is probably doing this just to provoke some feedback to his excessive BS posting, and to annoy people.

On a second thought... Isn't he the same guy who claims that almost all FE devices until now exhibit OU? Yep, he's the one who showed us, on numerous occasions, that "CoE has been broken without any reason of a doubt"+ blaBlabla & yada-dada-daa...

Energy, especially very basic forms like Potential & Kinetic - will always stay a mystery to our dearest Troll.

Omnibus

Of course, as obvious from the above post, some people like to blabber having absolutely no clue regarding the topic at hand.

Omnibus

The problem with making an Orryfeus-type working device (Milkovic, Dmitriev, Glotov etc.) is how to harness efficiently the produced excess energy to restore the initial state of the pendulum. It appears Karra Green Energy have managed to do that which only be known for sure if independent parties reproduce that device.