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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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mrgalleria

Aloha,
Good point. But Nature uses gravity so well. Rivers offer a good example of energy transmission. Moving huge amounts of water requires huge amounts of energy, yet we make the mistake of taking that for granted as we watch a river flowing. Instead think about how much real energy it takes to move that water, and then ask yourselve "where does that real energy come from?" Milkovic has shown us what gravity energy is, and how it is transmitted. Gravity should now be renamed electro-gravity as gravity is electricity.
The water in the river has taken the electro-gravity that is moving vertically and transmitted it into energy working horizontally. Yet there is so much excess available energy, that if you stand on a boat in the river your body weight does not change. It seems that you should be lighter, as some of the energy (electro-gravity) is being used by the water.
With this knowledge, we can move forward developing devices that capitalize on electro-gravity. Since gravity is electric, then anti-gravity is electric. Many things in Nature exhibit anti-gravity effects- notibly gases. When we understand the electrical differences between the gravity and anti-gravity elements, we can achieve anti-gravity, or better- controlled gravity (electro-gravity).
Bill

aleks

Gravity as electro-magnetic force is an old idea it seems, but mainstream physics does not think so. As far as I know, general relativity postulates gravity to be an effect of mass, and it does not relate to electricity in any direct way. (it is that bad)

Of course, I think otherwise. I perceive our earthly gravity as an everlasting electricity flow of ultra low (or zero-constant) frequency, and of considerable power (we people and various physical objects are particles like electrons which "flow" in the earthly gravity field). The only problem is to create a resonator that "connects" to that flow, and which oscillates with it. Of course, you can't do that with antenna or a cable, as you have to have a difference in potential while there is no considerable difference in electrical potential of gravity-electricity in a given small area of space. So, the only way to extract work out of gravity-electricity is to create a mechanical resonator that converts its motion into electricity, which converts energy of a vastly larger system (earthly gravity) into a small closed electrical system composed of generator, battery and various load.

"That's wishful thinking" one would like to say? But one have to prove the model posted by xnonix is wrong, and that Working Model 2D is wrong as well in that respect.

Beside that wind generators are an example of devices that convert energy of a larger system into energy of a closed system.

aparodox2003

cevich is right, this looks like it runs off the same idea as a teader-todder--where the fat guy sits 10 feet away from the pivot point and the child sits 5 feet.  If this is OU then so is the pry-bar i use to loosen nuts on my engine, If i tried to use my fingers it would never let loose but with a pry-bar i can break it in 2

aleks

Quote from: aparodox2003 on May 31, 2007, 01:42:01 AM
cevich is right, this looks like it runs off the same idea as a teader-todder--where the fat guy sits 10 feet away from the pivot point and the child sits 5 feet.  If this is OU then so is the pry-bar i use to loosen nuts on my engine, If i tried to use my fingers it would never let loose but with a pry-bar i can break it in 2

No, it is not similar. The fat guy does not rise as high as the light guy falls... While in this oscillator you can rise 25 kg like you are rising 2.5 kg to the same height. Of course, as xnonix model suggests, you first have to put the system into a surplus resonance (it takes about 10 seconds for his model - note that this does not necessarily increase the amplitude of the beam (spring limits it), but it does increase traction power of the beam, and it can't be limited without stopping the pendulum).

So, the power comes from 'out there'.. The good analogy would be an object made of a non-conductive material which nevertheless may carry an electrical charge. So, the system gains charge seemingly out of nowhere.

mrgalleria

Aloha,
aparadox- your pry bar is a more effiecient way to do work with your arm vs your fingers, of course no one will argue with that.
You seem to need some help understanding what Milkovic is teaching. Maybe this will help.
I am going to assume that as a child you did swing on a home swing set. Do you remember the effect that occurs that makes swinging so facinating? It's that weightless sensation you get at that point where the swing reaches the end of travel- sometimes you float off the seat. Well, at that moment you are not weightless, it's just that the energy that was pulling you downwards has been transfered up the chain, across and down the pipes which form the structure of the device, and that energy can be so great that it will lift one or more pipes off the ground momentarily, at the precise moment you feel weightless. It cannot be a mechanical effect (as with the pry bar). It is instantanious, quick like electricity.
Hydro-electric plants draw fractions of energy from movingwater via mechanical means. That proves that electricity is in moving water, and I previously explained how it got there. It is that simple, as it should be, as we knew it would be.
Now that we have a very basic understanding of energy transfer. We have to force ourselves to mentally abandon all of the current and past thinking (last 100+ years) of how we are using mechanical means of accomplishing work. Then we will have access to energy that is clean, harmless, and unlimited
Bill