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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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Merg



Merg

It would be good if we could see something like this in our gardens and parks

Africa water pumping swing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_OfuIY0RQ

PaoloGigli

Hello Merg,

Quote from: Merg on February 03, 2014, 10:44:14 AM
Something new from gdez100

two stage mechanical oscillator 2014 and other stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDj4kFWE4A8

This link just documenting that some guy out there prepare himself to make some kind of pendulum contraption. There is no connection with what I emphasized in previous reply.

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Some company from South Africa offering the pendulum pump
http://thegreenboyzenergy.com/human-powered-borehole-pump/

This pump is exactly the one represented in Milkovic`s group videos. Someone make a copy of this pump or VEMIRC (Milkovic group official name) sold it to company from South Africa. Here is one of a links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpgl7o_1QI

What to say. It is working. The water got out from the pump. But... It is a bad engineering. Look at the lever, 3.5:1, meaning what ever force you have at pendulum side at a pump side is only 3.5 part of it. When you see some spring at the pump side it is obvious a force is even less, not to mention added weight near the lever pivot (video clip).

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It would be good if we could see something like this in our gardens and parks

Africa water pumping swing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_OfuIY0RQ

Nice example of using pendulum (people swinging) for pumping water but also nice example of inefficiency of such system. Be patient and watch again from start. What quantity of water boy have got from pump (pumping hard) and what quantity they have got by swinging, it is more fun, I admit :)
For sake of fun, socializing and time consuming swinging is a good approach but old school pumping is more efficient :)

Merg, what your replays have with other people contributions here? You have added new links to videos, "scientific" papers and such things without any real evidence about "12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !" or anything else close to 1, not to mention overunity.

It is a shame for VEMIRC TSMO laboratory for not organize exact measuring of input/output characteristics so long time, especially for TSMO lab front-men Mr. Jovan Marjanović. His mass production of "scientific" papers show deep misunderstanding of basic principle of physics (pendulum, lever) in order to "explain" "overunity" of pendulum/lever  "behavior" in Milkovic TSMO. Mr. Jovan Marjanović have the highest academic rank in VEMIRC and his responsibility is the highest.

At least as expected from VEMIRC TSMO Lab is accurate measuring, not some contraption like in http://www.pendulum-lever.com/docs/Jovan_Marjanovic_Recommendations_for_Construction_and_Efficiency_Measuring.pdf page 17. Mr. Marjanović is M.Sc. in Electrical Engineering and should know the methods of measuring of required values for this purpose. If not, it is free to use my proposal for measuring framework presented here http://www.overunity.com/14225/two-stage-mechanical-oscillator-measurement-framework#.UvAfDUL3yHs. It is clear and repeatable. Mr. Marjanović is free to use other my proposals to improve behavior of pendulum/lever construction. It is free to contact me if he need further explanation (measurement framework is not worked out completely). But this will not happen, I suppose :)

Free energy community do not need any new links of any kind except accurate scientific measuring report of TSMO.

Paolo

wings

Quote from: PaoloGigli on February 03, 2014, 06:49:51 PM
Hello Merg,

This link just documenting that some guy out there prepare himself to make some kind of pendulum contraption. There is no connection with what I emphasized in previous reply.

This pump is exactly the one represented in Milkovic`s group videos. Someone make a copy of this pump or VEMIRC (Milkovic group official name) sold it to company from South Africa. Here is one of a links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpgl7o_1QI

What to say. It is working. The water got out from the pump. But... It is a bad engineering. Look at the lever, 3.5:1, meaning what ever force you have at pendulum side at a pump side is only 3.5 part of it. When you see some spring at the pump side it is obvious a force is even less, not to mention added weight near the lever pivot (video clip).

Nice example of using pendulum (people swinging) for pumping water but also nice example of inefficiency of such system. Be patient and watch again from start. What quantity of water boy have got from pump (pumping hard) and what quantity they have got by swinging, it is more fun, I admit :)
For sake of fun, socializing and time consuming swinging is a good approach but old school pumping is more efficient :)

Merg, what your replays have with other people contributions here? You have added new links to videos, "scientific" papers and such things without any real evidence about "12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !" or anything else close to 1, not to mention overunity.

It is a shame for VEMIRC TSMO laboratory for not organize exact measuring of input/output characteristics so long time, especially for TSMO lab front-men Mr. Jovan Marjanović. His mass production of "scientific" papers show deep misunderstanding of basic principle of physics (pendulum, lever) in order to "explain" "overunity" of pendulum/lever  "behavior" in Milkovic TSMO. Mr. Jovan Marjanović have the highest academic rank in VEMIRC and his responsibility is the highest.

At least as expected from VEMIRC TSMO Lab is accurate measuring, not some contraption like in http://www.pendulum-lever.com/docs/Jovan_Marjanovic_Recommendations_for_Construction_and_Efficiency_Measuring.pdf page 17. Mr. Marjanović is M.Sc. in Electrical Engineering and should know the methods of measuring of required values for this purpose. If not, it is free to use my proposal for measuring framework presented here http://www.overunity.com/14225/two-stage-mechanical-oscillator-measurement-framework#.UvAfDUL3yHs. It is clear and repeatable. Mr. Marjanović is free to use other my proposals to improve behavior of pendulum/lever construction. It is free to contact me if he need further explanation (measurement framework is not worked out completely). But this will not happen, I suppose :)

Free energy community do not need any new links of any kind except accurate scientific measuring report of TSMO.

Paolo
Paolo here simulation pendulum and nonlinear study.
pendulum lab
http://www.elmer.unibas.ch/pendulum/lab.htm

http://www.elmer.unibas.ch/pendulum/parres.htm