12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[PaoloGigli]

Paolo here simulation pendulum and nonlinear study.
pendulum lab
http://www.elmer.unibas.ch/pendulum/lab.htm

http://www.elmer.unibas.ch/pendulum/parres.htm

Well, nice analytic solution for moving center of gravity...

Thank you, wings

[gdez]

@ Merg,
I like all your updates and videos and docs. Thanks for all your work.
@ paoligigli,
You obviously haven't built one of these devices yet and I will tell you , that while milcovics theories seem simple, there is much more to it when you start building. Connecting a "load" to the lever is not as simple as it seems. It's easy to draw up ideas and tell people that they are not doing it right, until you try it yourself.
Water pumping directly from the lever, you will see immediantly that if you don't have a perfectly designed system you will never get this to work right. Your fluid dynamics would have to be perfect to get the machine in resonance.
From what I see, you need to use a flywheel/spring or a pneumatic buffer to connect the load.(expansion tank?) to in a sense "disconnect"  the load from the lever.
I feel your frustration, but I am not some milkovic groupie. I have built some of these models, and if I didn't think there was something to it, I would have given up a while ago.
Also on your links on "pumping a swing"----been there--- done that.
Good stuff, but why don't you start really experimenting yourself and you will see it's not as easy as just telling people there not doing the job.
Cheers all,
greg

[PaoloGigli]

@ Merg,
I like all your updates and videos and docs. Thanks for all your work.
@ paoligigli,
You obviously haven't built one of these devices yet and I will tell you , that while milcovics theories seem simple, there is much more to it when you start building. Connecting a "load" to the lever is not as simple as it seems. It's easy to draw up ideas and tell people that they are not doing it right, until you try it yourself.
Water pumping directly from the lever, you will see immediantly that if you don't have a perfectly designed system you will never get this to work right. Your fluid dynamics would have to be perfect to get the machine in resonance.
From what I see, you need to use a flywheel/spring or a pneumatic buffer to connect the load.(expansion tank?) to in a sense "disconnect"  the load from the lever.
I feel your frustration, but I am not some milkovic groupie. I have built some of these models, and if I didn't think there was something to it, I would have given up a while ago.
Also on your links on "pumping a swing"----been there--- done that.
Good stuff, but why don't you start really experimenting yourself and you will see it's not as easy as just telling people there not doing the job.
Cheers all,
greg

Hello greg,

Sorry greg, I do not have any reason to be frustrated
It is obvious that members of free energy community are frustrated because there are so many useless TSMO contraptions. I am an engineer and before building any kind of machine I use to follow some procedures: to see what others did and does (forums, blogs, sights, patents, scientific papers, Ms.C and Ph.D papers etc.), to study the problems others has, find solutions for problems of interest, find flaws or omissions in basic principles and, at last, make decisions of my own construction.

Most important part of some experiment is measuring and insight in delivered data. Second important part is fast change of vital parameters of the machine. Before this important parts is crucial detail. You have to know all principles of physics to be able to catch "something" if this "something" really exist. Many members of free energy community is not "armed" enough to fight with "something".

This is a main reason why i have proposed construction with all measurements needed for quality decision making. This construction of TSMO gives opportunity for easy changing of mechanical parameters. Measurement and control are designed to be cheap and easily available. Insight in data is not pure mathematical but rather visual and most understandable with opportunity to compare with theoretical data. Further, I have proposed pure vertical movement of pendulum and pump pivot (James Watt) in order to exclude "peculiar" movement of lever. What missing? Mechanism for automatic push of pendulum? Yes, but this will come when we learn, from measurement, how to do that in most efficient way.

This is proposals of superb machine for experimenting, getting real data and as much as possible from TSMO. Enough from me

Well, it is clear to me that neither Milkovic group nor many of free energy community members does not know how to measure input energy of TSMO. This is a main reason for overunity () reports. TSMO is NOT capable of overunity and overall efficiency is small. I have wrote about this earlier.

I have another proposal. We need only one such machine for experimenting and data collection. Lets do it together. I saw good construction with automatic push on youtube. This gentlemen is capable to do it and he already did it (according to other youtube videos). My construction is more versatile and gave more opportunity for parameter changing.
Let us unite our forces and make a real scientific project, on paper with all details, software writing and at the end, real machine. If we invest small amount of money (each of us) for parts and volunteer work we could have respectable machine and respectable data. Let start with small group of us dedicated to such project.
It will be FUN

[PaoloGigli]

I have another proposal. We need only one such machine for experimenting and data collection. Lets do it together. I saw good construction with automatic push on youtube. This gentlemen is capable to do it and he already did it (according to other youtube videos). My construction is more versatile and gave more opportunity for parameter changing.
Let us unite our forces and make a real scientific project, on paper with all details, software writing and at the end, real machine. If we invest small amount of money (each of us) for parts and volunteer work we could have respectable machine and respectable data. Let start with small group of us dedicated to such project.
It will be FUN

Nobody likes sharing? You like to make your beasts deep in a dungeon far away from curious eyes? OK 

Things for free are here http://www.overunity.com/14225/two-stage-mechanical-oscillator-measurement-framework 

Paolo

[gdez]

When I get my new model together I wil try to do some of the measurements you propose. The weather is slowing me down a little, and I don't have money to buy expensive components. It has taken me well over a year to get all the stuff I have now. I have to take my time building, beause my last model did not work well from a poorly built frame. I will post progress, but do not expect to have it ready forr several weeks.
Greg