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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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ltseung888

Comments:

"The Lead Out Energy Theory is not difficult to understand.  Are you sure that you are promoting it the right way?"

"What is the right way?"

"I do not know.  You tried the academic path by presenting at Tsinghua University.  You posted on the Internet.  You are in touch with Government Officials, Politicians, Investors and Inventors.  You helped to fund the Tong Wheel, the FLEET, the resonating Joule Thief and the Chan, Yuen, Cheung Wheels.  What else will you do?"

"There is a Chinese Saying - men can only try; succes will depend on Heaven."

"Actually, you have succeeded more than most.  You have working OU devices based on the Milkovic 2SO - the unbalanced Chan Wheel and Yuen Wheel.  You have both theory and working OU devices.  Let others shine."
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Meeting with an Investor Group:

Investor 1: "I do not think that it is wise to invest in the impossible perpetual motion machine."

Investor 2: "Tseung is promoting Lead Out Energy Devices.  I think we should at least give him a chance.  I have seen the Milkovic 2SO video and spun the Chan and Yuen Wheels.  I also saw the Input and Output comparison of the Ting Wheel.  I got a COP of 6.8.  That is why I invited you all to this meeting."

Investor 3: "I follow the information on the Internet.  The WITTS and the Quantum Energy Generator QEG are getting much attention.  I am prepared to listen to the presentation."

Tseung did the standard presentation.

Investor 1: "Now I actually saw the Milkovic, the Chan and Yuen videos.  I like the explanation.  Are you sure that we can actually see and touch these Wheels?  Can we get a thrid party expert to validate the Ting Wheel?  I am prepared to support the investing of USD60,000 to develop a prototype that can generate 5KW as claimed."

Investor 4: "I do not mind visiting WITTS.  It may be a good move to invest or work with them to provide the 5KW home unit.  They claimed to have developed a 40KW unit with overunity and self loop.  There will be no development risks."

Tseung: "You should get your experts to do a competitive technology analysis in addition to the validation of the Ting Wheel."

Investor 2: "I do not mind to becoming the lead investor and keep you all informed of the progress.  How many of you would like to follow up?"

All nodded their heads.  Let us wait for the report from the third party experts.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

Paul-R

Quote from: ltseung888 on December 02, 2014, 06:24:35 AM


Investor 2:   I have seen the Milkovic 2SO video and spinned the Chan and Yuen Wheels.

Investor 2 should  be advised that the past participle of  "spin" is "spun".

Am  I right that  the Ting wheel is  as described in #2258 on page 151 ?

ltseung888

Quote from: Paul-R on December 02, 2014, 12:35:20 PM
Investor 2 should  be advised that the past participle of  "spin" is "spun".

Am  I right that  the Ting wheel is  as described in #2258 on page 151 ?

@Paul-R,

Thanks for the English correction.  The Ting wheel as described in #2258 is being modified.

The version seen by Investor 2 had a normal flywheel and could only generate 340 watts with 50 watts input.  When the normal flywheel was replaced by an unbalanced wheel, the torque and the output increased so much that the axle was twisted.  Dr. Ting did not like the shaking.  He took steps to reduce the shaking.

Different approaches are being tried.  The one I like is to take the knowledge gained from the Yuen Wheel.  The flywheel was replaced by another Pulse Wheel (the Taiwan aproach).  The Pulse wheels themselves were "unbalanced".  The two unbalanced pulse wheels appeared to produce less shaking with more than double the torque. Such experiments are being done to increase the performance.  The 225 HP Pulose Motor had the equivalent of 9 wheels.

Another approach was to get resonance similar to the QEG or the proposed Cheung Wheel.  The Investors are discussing whether to put in USD60,000 to help Dr. Ting to produce a 5KW generator.  They are likely to get a third party expert to examine the existing Ting Wheel to see whether the COP = 6.8 results are correct. 

I have a gut feel that the Investors will contact WITTS.  A demonstrated overunity and self looped prototype generating much more than 5KW now is obviously more attractive than waiting for some as yet undeveloped prototype.

I am no longer involved with the Ting Wheel.  This allows me to disclose any improvement ideas openly on the Internet.  I do not need more money.  What is the point of having the soul in Heaven and money in the Bank on Earth?  Others may be in a different situation...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Comments on improving the Bedini SG Motor:
Please watch the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-PZiTUJZo

Aaron also used a bicycle wheel.  If you use two or more bicycle wheels (the Yuen Wheel technique), can you generate more torque?  Assume that the second wheel does not have battery to drive it. 

Is there a theoretical formula to determine the strength and number of magnets on the wheel?

*** Answer:
The Ting wheel did produce greater torque with addition of an  unbalanced wheel on the same  axle.  That leads out gravitational energy.  Use of coils and magnets on a spinning wheel can indeed lead out electromagnetic energy.  Thanks for the suggestion.  There will be more experiments to do on the Yuen Wheel.  The Weight will be magnets with other magnets or coils to lead out more magnetic or electromagnetic energy.  I do not have any formula yet.  But my gut feel is that a "resonance" rotational speed may be possible. 

Bedini Wheel developers - does the above discussion provide more insight?  Your Bedini SG wheels may be bringing in electromagnetic energy (electron cloud energy?), think along this direction...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.