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Overunity Machines Forum



A fresh look at the Clem motor

Started by aussiebattler, March 18, 2018, 04:34:56 PM

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onepower

Citfta
QuoteOne of the reasons most people have failed in attempting to build the Clem engine is they just don't understand fluid dynamics.  In almost all of the replication attempts I have seen the builder uses a long straight pipe going directly out from the center and then they put an elbow on the end with a nozzle and expect that to work.  The original pump that Clem claims was his inspiration for his machine had a long curving narrowing path for the fluid to follow.  This has several advantages over the straight pipe with an elbow.

Indeed, most people built what amounts to a simple rotary lawn sprinkler.

Which begs the question, what did they think was going to happen?. This reminds me of Hero's rotary steam engine which was invented around 30 BC or about 2000 years ago. Which begs another question, how is it so many today can seem to do no better than someone 2000 years ago?. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile#See_also

It's on us, who actually want to learn, to pick up our game and do better.

AC

aussiebattler

It is the shear simplicity of the Clem design that keeps the "professionals " away.

onepower

aussiebattler
QuoteIt is the shear simplicity of the Clem design that keeps the "professionals " away.

Yes most experts would agree it's unworkable because they have no knowledge of how it could.

From what I have seen maybe a fraction of 1% of experts actually invent/discover something new. The rest simply follow the 1% and repeat what they did which is more like a memory skill or repetition than expertise. Like the supposed hunter following an expert hunting guide but loses there guide and immediately gets lost and starves to death. There not a real hunter there a follow a longer pretending to be a hunter.

So far as experts are concerned I only have one criteria. A real expert can solve the problem at hand and the rest are just want to be experts pretending they know what there doing. If they can't getter done, there no expert.

AC




SolarLab

Quote from: onepower on April 18, 2023, 09:08:05 PM
aussiebattler
Yes most experts would agree it's unworkable because they have no knowledge of how it could.

From what I have seen maybe a fraction of 1% of experts actually invent/discover something new. The rest simply follow the 1% and repeat what they did which is more like a memory skill or repetition than expertise. Like the supposed hunter following an expert hunting guide but loses there guide and immediately gets lost and starves to death. There not a real hunter there a follow a longer pretending to be a hunter.

So far as experts are concerned I only have one criteria. A real expert can solve the problem at hand and the rest are just want to be experts pretending they know what there doing. If they can't getter done, there no expert.

AC

So how would you "ketter done?"  Just curious.

Thanks,


ramset

What "some " feel could play a part in the gain mechanism ( phase change to steam in hot oil)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkAbV-yXy0M

Slow motion starts approx .52sec- 1 minute into vid ..
Mucho gusto ..."instant" 1600 fold expansions ...


After all ..350 hp ( as claimed by Clem)
Is no small amount of power ..( although his engine is small for that
big output claim)
Considering his tech was never given a chance to evolve ..( could probably be much smaller)


Yes Tom did share that he had what seemed anomalous outputs ( shocks or ?
During some experiments..
Getting phase change shocks into a driving ( directional) result...
Should be doable..
At least a gain mechanism that could supply huge outputs in a small package
Or does the oil itself "phase" at temperature?( and then recombine ( still usable ?)


I believe Tom had mentioned testing that too ..( to do list)
Tom mentioned Some simple test beds are scheduled to try to dial in the phase change theory .
However
Gotta pay the bills .. so like most here ...
Limited time






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