A fresh look at the Clem motor

[onepower]

aussiebattler

What you showed is not Shauberger's vortex pipe - this is:
Perhaps we could move to another location

In fact, neither of our pictures is a true vortex pipe and I was only showing the principal of turning a flow inwards towards a center. Schaubergers vortex pipe was what he called a whorl pipe as shown in the device below. A doubly twisted pipe having a dual cyclonic action.

It applies here because Clem used similar language when describing his technology. A supposedly cone shaped rotor with spiraling channels and perimeter nozzles later replaced by a flattened more compact design.

From Clem...

The pump, as he described it, is used to move the oil, under pressure, from a storage area to the converter from where
the energy is converted into enough power to turn the motor, move the oil back to the storage area and power the
pump, which in turn continues the cycle.
One hint as to the contents of the converter is "it acts like a turbine but isn't a turbine" in the normal sense of the
word, Clem said

From the Clem rexresearch file.

The motor had only one moving part, a cone shaped rotor mounted vertically on a hollow shaft. Spiral channels cut
into the cone wound around its length and feed into peripheral nozzles at its large end. When fluid flowed through the
spiral channels it was ejected out the nozzles and caused the cone to spin. At a certain velocity, the rotating cone
became independent of the starter pump and began to operate by itself. At an operating speed of 1800 to 2300 RPM
the fluid heated up to 300° F, requiring a heat exchanger. Vegetable oil was used because at 300° F water boils and
conventional engine oil breaks down. A 12-volt battery was the only other power source.
Clem never applied for a patent because his motor design was derived from the asphalt pump that was already
patented. Fifteen companies turned him down before a large coal company offered to back him and signed contracts
to sell the motor. Soon after the deal was signed, Richard Clem died of a heart attack.

Isn't that convenient, Clem signs over the rights to a large coal company then dies of a heart attack. The coal company buries the technology and Clem then it's business as usual. The lesson here is people involved in the fossil fuel industry are as psychotic as the day is long and cannot be trusted under any circumstances. Coincidentally, it was a bunch of psychotic dim wits from texas oil country who destroyed Schauberger as well.

AC

[aussiebattler]

whatever

[sm0ky2]

Hi smokey
So what is your experience in producing experiments to support Clem's motor ?

I have not yet attempted a build of this one. I only recently began researching this topic.
I have seen many other peoples attempts, and from my perspective, not many are replicating the original device as described.

[aussiebattler]

I have not yet attempted a build of this one. I only recently began researching this topic.
I have seen many other peoples attempts, and from my perspective, not many are replicating the original device as described.

Yes Well we have only had  50 yrs to do so.

[citfta]

One of the reasons most people have failed in attempting to build the Clem engine is they just don't understand fluid dynamics.  In almost all of the replication attempts I have seen the builder uses a long straight pipe going directly out from the center and then they put an elbow on the end with a nozzle and expect that to work.  The original pump that Clem claims was his inspiration for his machine had a long curving narrowing path for the fluid to follow.  This has several advantages over the straight pipe with an elbow.


Look at the picture I have attached.  If you understand fluid dynamics you realize that as soon as the water or other fluid starts to curve to the right that is also putting a reaction force on the left pipe wall which of course would make the pipe want to move to the left.  And the force continues to be applied to the pipe for almost the full length of the pipe.  Whereas the straight pipe with an elbow on the end only has that force right at the elbow.


The other problem with the straight pipe and elbow is that you are trying to take a large volume of slow moving fluid and suddenly turn it into a small volume of fast moving fluid.  If you have ever tried to turn a 10 pound flywheel from 0 to 200 rpm in 2 seconds you realize that takes a lot of force.  But if you have 20 seconds to get that flywheel up to 200 rpms that takes a lot less force.  The sudden change in direction at the elbow is also another serious waste of energy.


The long tapered gradually curving pipe allows the fluid to smoothly increase in speed and also allows the reaction force of the fluid to be distributed along almost the entire length of the pipe.  With the long tapered curved pipe there are no sudden changes in either speed or direction so the fluid is moved much more efficiently.  The long tapered pipe also allows more of the fluid to be near the outer edge of the spinning disc and thus subjected to more centrifugal force which increases the pressure on the fluid.


Respectfully,
Carroll