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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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cheors

System wiring.
V1 goes to  the + supercaps set
V2 could go to the + Bridge output.

d3x0r

Quote from: cheors on April 24, 2018, 08:27:23 AM
System wiring.
V1 goes to  the + supercaps set
V2 could go to the + Bridge output.

*OMG I hate paste on this; it always adds like font and size into url that breaks it*
falstad sim


According to your simulator, when 1 is on, R1 and R14 activate. which is also activating coils 3 and 4 which overlap 6 and 7 with a canceling field.


Each relay should activate 1 coil in 1 polarity....
I dunno maybe that is how it works; I think that's entirely wrong, and if that's the scheme replicated it's no wonder there's no power.


Edit: Oops, left the bottom, middle switch on; was testing what would happen if the previous coil was also activated, but your input signals aren't equal to coil number....

seaad

Quote from: cheors on April 24, 2018, 08:27:23 AM
System wiring.
V1 goes to  the + supercaps set
V2 could go to the + Bridge output.

Sorry cheors I can't believe in your wiring diagram. Too many unknown wires in Pierres wire bundle. Especially when it comes to V2! See pic Reply #646
only ONE red return wire!
I can see that V2 goes to relay (67), 69, 71.
Even if I had P;s contraption physically in front of me it should be a heavy task following all wires.
You have to turn ALL diods  to +V2!
/Arne

T-1000

When looking again to Pierre's original videos  with relays:
Quote from: Pierre on April 24, 2018, 02:25:03 PM
  digitalWrite(1,HIGH), digitalWrite(13,HIGH), digitalWrite(25,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(2,HIGH), digitalWrite(14,HIGH), digitalWrite(26,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(1,LOW),  digitalWrite(13,LOW),  digitalWrite(25,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
Which mean on 1st activation you will end up pin 1 "+" and pin 5 "-". So 4 coils in series are positive. But because all coils are connected in series each after another - when making pin 25 "+" pin 30 "-" this will also create path: pin 1 "+" and pin 30 "-"(and 2 other in middle around circle). Which will be negative 7 coils in series path. The current will be stronger in 4 coils in series path but there is also negative component in other direction over 7 coils. On the second step the positive path is getting across 3 coils and negative path is getting across 6 coils in series and that create stronger magentic fields on both ways. On the third step it is 7 coils apart again.
So at this point partially bucking fields are in place and it is interesting to see what is going to happen in own setup. When keeping in mind on the same position we have coil X towards center and coil X-5 on same axis towards outer shell it is creating interesting scenario.

In regards to diodes - unless you have power supply with center tap and fully isolate positive and negative sides of the coil from shorting (please see my sketch attached again for this) the solution is to have only 1 side of the coil creating BEMF part towards positive terminal.

Cheers!

myenergetic

@T1000

A little rewiring required on the coil recovery line I have marked them in red
Hope it helps

jj