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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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konehead

Hi L192
OK sorry let me re-phrase a bit;
It (probably) does not work with conventional scientific understanding!
It certainly would be nice if it did .... maybe it will who knows.

Pseudo science could also be called theories requiring proof

Even Pierre says he does not understand how it works and would like to know


listener192

Quote from: jerdee on June 06, 2018, 02:45:30 PM
Here is a questions I think everyone can answer here. 

Do you ever see overlapped field poles on a DC or AC generator?

So why the heck are we connecting 5/6 coils in series to create our POLE?  Hopefully this is more clear and why this direction needs to be resolved.  Pierre's stator is nothing more than rotating field poles. As long as you keep the poles opposite from each other on the armature, your fine.  So the slot spacing per coil is your POLE width as well as it determines your opposing location on the armature!  Another words, you can not create this device with 5 poles.  You can do it with 2 or 6....but not 3 or 5 poles. 

Hopefully this is making sense. 

Jerdee


No you don't because 3 phases are the most you would see on a 30 slot stator not 6 phases. Much current is also used on coils that are not in rotor registration and are performing no useful work.


L192

jerdee

Quote from: listener192 on June 06, 2018, 03:10:41 PM

No you don't because 3 phases are the most you would see on a 30 slot stator not 6 phases. Much current is also used on coils that are not in rotor registration and are performing no useful work.


L192


I respectfully dissagree.  I never said 6 phases either.  The rotational field poles on the stator are acting like magnets moving across the armature.  That is it...don't overcomplicate.

listener192

You said overlapped field poles not coils. A 3 phase generator will largely not have overlapping poles but will have overlapping coils to develop the sine wave (distributed windings). No over complication just how it is.. and please don't tell me to keep it simple again because your keep it simple ideas have yielded nothing of value so far.


If you have something to say just say it plainly or not at all.


L192

MichelM

Quote from: gotoluc on June 06, 2018, 09:42:43 AM
... I'm interested in testing bucking coils and a momentary shut off of one field side to create a dis-balance.  So as you can see we still many option variations to test and peoples suggestions are also welcomed since it looks like I may be the only one with a device that can be tested without switching issues.

Regards
Luc

Bonjour Luc,

d'abord merci de prendre la peine de publier les vidéos des tests.

Je voudrais donc faire une suggestion : il me semble que vous pouvons facilement, avec six diodes seulement, neutraliser les champs de polarité opposée. C'est à dire, obtenir seulement 3 champs tournants négatifs, ou 3 champs tournants positifs, en fonction de l'orientation des 6 diodes.
Si cela fonctionne comme je le pense, cela supprimerait les polarités opposées entre les diverses bobines du stator, donc uniquement 3 champs tournants de même polarité, et espacées.
Ainsi, aux extrémités du rotor, nous devrions avoir des champs opposés de même polarité, variables et en alternance, susceptibles de fournir la puissance.
Nous nous approchons alors des descriptions les plus récentes du générateur de Figuera.
Dans l'image, les six diodes en bleu sont positionnées directement entre deux bobines, uniformément réparties.

MichelM

En.  Hello Luc,

first, thank you for taking the time to publish the videos of your tests.

So I would like to make a suggestion: it seems to me that we could easily neutralize the fields of opposite polarity with only six diodes. That is, to obtain only 3 negative rotating fields, or 3 positive rotating fields, depending on the orientation of the 6 diodes.
If this works as I think, it would remove the opposite polarities between the various stator coils, so only 3 rotating fields of the same polarity and spaced apart.
Thus, at the rotor ends we should have opposite fields of the same polarity, variable and alternating, capable of providing power.
We are then approaching the most recent descriptions of the Figuera generator.
In the image, the six diodes in blue are positioned directly between two coils, evenly distributed.

MichelM