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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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pedro1

Je ne comprend pas votre le principe de votre animation on dirait un transformateur qui flip d'un côté a l'autre cela n'a rien à voir avec le dz générateur  qui est de répliquer le déplacement d'un champ magnétique votre animation ne fait que un flip de gauche a droite?

En.  I don't understand the principle of your animation. It looks like a transformer that flip from side to the other. This has nothing to do with the DZ generator which replicates the movement of a magnetic field.  Your animation does only a flip from left to right?

T-1000

The image in the attachment shows magnet in middle with control coils flipping its closed loop flux from one side to another.
https://youtu.be/no50_5iSr2Y?t=6m42s
I also worked on this idea for few months in my experiments.
The problem this design have is the speed on how magnetic flux changes from one side loop to another. Which is the speed of magnetic domains rotation. The resulting change of flux is too fast to induce any proper current in output coils  due very narrow resulting pulses. Which is causing output coils to be in same design as in radio frequency switching. And in practice this type of switching is good for generating nanosecond pulses but not best for power generation.

jerdee

I now understand why 6 fields were initially chosen.  Yes, frequency and relay count are important, however there is also another MAJOR reason.  It all has to do with learning how a magnet changes in intensity as it rotates in a generator. 

When dz generator is done in 2 poles (18:1 ratio) instead of 6 fields (6:1 ratio), you have less crossing of the fields and more resolution.

Stop to think about how a magnet approaches a coil in a generator.  It's not only rotating, but changing intensity as it rotates.   Without change in intensity you do not have generator, just a rotating field. 

When you vary the intensity of the stator coils as it rotates, you are simulating a magnet's intensity and variation.  Except you don't need a gas engine.

Now that I have shown you, look at the scope shot and learn to understand where the fields are stronger and weaker.  This is not because of the rotor!   

There is NO hidden magnet, wires, or any any other crazy magical vortex or theory. 

Engineer to treat your stator windings like a rotating magnet and you will be on the right track.

Jerdee
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Fr.

Je comprends maintenant pourquoi 6 champs ont été initialement choisis. Oui, la fréquence et le nombre de relais sont importants, mais il y a aussi une autre raison MAJEURE. Tout cela a à voir avec l'apprentissage de la façon dont un aimant change d'intensité lorsqu'il tourne dans un générateur.

Quand le générateur dz est fait en 2 pôles (ratio 18: 1) au lieu de 6 champs (rapport 6: 1), vous avez moins de croisement des champs et plus de résolution.

Arrêtez de penser à la façon dont un aimant s'approche d'une bobine dans un générateur. Ce n'est pas seulement en tournant, mais en changeant l'intensité pendant la rotation. Sans changement d'intensité, vous n'avez pas de générateur, juste un champ tournant.

Lorsque vous faites varier l'intensité des bobines du stator pendant la rotation, vous simulez l'intensité et la variation d'un aimant. Sauf que vous n'avez pas besoin d'un moteur à essence.

Maintenant que je vous ai montré, regardez le plan de tir et apprenez à comprendre où les champs sont plus forts et plus faibles. Ce n'est pas à cause du rotor!

Il n'y a AUCUN aimant caché, fils, ou tout autre vortex ou théorie magique fou.

Ingénieur pour traiter vos enroulements de stator comme un aimant tournant et vous serez sur la bonne voie.

Jerdee

listener192

I posted an applet some time back showing a vector animation of how the very same in achieved in an induction motor.
I would suggest the switches move the waveform every 20ms (50Hz) 16ms (60Hz) and PWM is applied to a series MOSFET supply the DC rail. The PWM should produce a half sine and is synced to the start of the 20ms period. This will provide amplitude variation of the wave form (sine) from 0V to DC rail max. Every 20ms the whole waveform moves on. The relays or MOSFET switches would only be swiching at a low rate. The PWM is filtered to produce an unbroken half sine. Therefore a pulsating and traveling wave is produced. Not the missing pistons but the missing piston rings.


L192

r2fpl

The variation of the magnet field is nothing more than the production of pure sine by changing for each field coil. It is the variability of the magnet and it is 60Hz ?

Is there anything else?