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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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pmgr

Jerdee, why don't you spell out how it should be wired up; the way you write your emails, you make it appear that you know more than all of us...

Quote from: jerdee on June 22, 2018, 06:00:16 PMYou DECREASE inductance and increase CURRENT because of this.  Inductance is changing in rotation!!!!  This is VERY important. Jerdee
Anyway, I have pointed out many times that the inductance changes as you go around the stator. I have even posted plots of it; this is why I asked Luc to measure the inductance going around the rotor at the very start of this thread. I have attached his measurements again for your reference.

I have also pointed out many times that this is a way to create additional energy in the system through d(LI)/dt  (and not L*dI/dt as we are taught in school). It is called parametric variation. Partzman has brought this up as well. Nothing new, this principle is over 80 years old. However in most cases, it takes more energy to vary the inductance, than what the system produces due to the variation. And yes, if you decrease inductance, current will increase as the system will try to keep the flux constant: flux= L*I
PmgR


Reiyuki

An alternative wiring possibility I have not seen mentioned yet.  Arduino program driven identical to Pierre's.

A superconducting coil stores flux by shorting the coil leads.  Surely shorting sections of the stator assembly would do a good job at keeping the flux inside the core as well?

konehead

Hi Reiyuki
Any inductor with core or with aircore too, will go into a hyper ringing AC event upon a switch short-circuiting the coil leads together briefly.
The hyper ringing will fill up capacitors x20 or x50 in voltage via fwbr AC legs over coil and DC side to cap.
The switched short should be very brief pulse width and occur at sinewave peak period in an induced generator coil induced by sweeping magnet while with a pulsed dc coil, the switched short should happen just before saturation occurs.
Switching needs to be very low resistance and with ability to switch AC and to sustain the hyper ringing through switching during switch closure so for solid state bidirectionally connected paralled mosfets with also a very fast additional diode from source to drain on each paralleled mosfet cluster will worl well.
Resistive load is applied to the cap discharge event only, and caps must first fill by themselves with no resistive load across them during filling process...
I don't know about superconducting coils being shorted or the cores storing energy but I would assume cores must be very fast acting low hysterisis type

konehead

Hi everyone
I just discovered Pierre sent me personal message way back on March 18 and did not know this until last night.
He was saying his wave form resembles a sinewave scope photo I posted of also a 60hz sinewave and this was created by a nsns rotor of 4 big neodymium magnets sweeping past a big fat air cored generator coil st rpms of 1800rpm which creates the squarish looking 60hz sinewave sinewave
with this basic sinewave I could power just about anything that runs on 60hz AC from grid.
Anyways what I did was timed a short circuit of that fat aircoed coil with a simple brush - copper commuttor and this short circuit of coil timed to happen in middle of the sinewave peak period.
And you can see clearly in scope photo at bottom page in link just what happens and  I call this A.C. hyper ringing....it fills up caps like crazy is its advantage.
Anyways this got me thinking "maybe" what is going on is that those noisy mechanical relays Pierre used  are so slow to open and maybe sticking closed a bit of time too, so instead of a reversal of polarity in pulsing as is desired, it instead creates a brief shorted out condition to the inductor, ubtil the relays finallyl wedge themselves open, and this without knowledge of Pierre and so this is the mystery-power Pierre finds and videos show....
A bit far fetched but possible.....here is link to page Pierre wrote to me about look at scope photo at bottom of page
https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/shorting-coils-circuits


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stargate22

Quote from: konehead on June 23, 2018, 05:33:32 AM
Hi everyone
I just discovered Pierre sent me personal message way back on March 18 and did not know this until last night.
He was saying his wave form resembles a sinewave scope photo I posted of also a 60hz sinewave and this was created by a nsns rotor of 4 big neodymium magnets sweeping past a big fat air cored generator coil st rpms of 1800rpm which creates the squarish looking 60hz sinewave sinewave
with this basic sinewave I could power just about anything that runs on 60hz AC from grid.
Anyways what I did was timed a short circuit of that fat aircoed coil with a simple brush - copper commuttor and this short circuit of coil timed to happen in middle of the sinewave peak period.
And you can see clearly in scope photo at bottom page in link just what happens and  I call this A.C. hyper ringing....it fills up caps like crazy is its advantage.
Anyways this got me thinking "maybe" what is going on is that those noisy mechanical relays Pierre used  are so slow to open and maybe sticking closed a bit of time too, so instead of a reversal of polarity in pulsing as is desired, it instead creates a brief shorted out condition to the inductor, ubtil the relays finallyl wedge themselves open, and this without knowledge of Pierre and so this is the mystery-power Pierre finds and videos show....
A bit far fetched but possible.....here is link to page Pierre wrote to me about look at scope photo at bottom of page
https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/shorting-coils-circuits


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Below are shots of Pierre's diag. and a scope shot of a "Harbor frieght", 900 watt , 2 cycle Gen.
It appears that there is some "Coil-shorting" happening there on the 900 watt gen.

Doug, do you see what's going on here .... does this apply ?