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NO FAKE! - NO FAKE ALL MECHANICAL MAGNET OVER UNITY MOTOR

Started by magnetman12003, April 11, 2018, 02:48:23 PM

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AlienGrey

Interesting work, now we can see what you are doing, keep it up  ::)

broli

Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 18, 2018, 03:53:13 PM
SO WHEN THE HUGE BULGE IS PUSHED BY THE SAME LIKE FLUX OF A RING MAGNET BELOW IT IT STANDS TO REASON THAT AT 45 DEGREES THE ARM WILL NOT ONLY REPEL UP AWAY FROM THE RING MAGNET BUT MOVE SIDEWAYS AT THE SAME TIME.  AND KEEP ON MOVING!


Why then does your rotor stop instead of keep on moving?

magnetman12003

Quote from: Kator01 on April 18, 2018, 09:08:08 PM
Sigh...

Mr. Ferko , why do you not show a clear picture of how you arranged your Halbach-Array ?

It made me suspicious when I read : "the unused nothpole".
Please have a look at how the structure of a Halbach Array is. Still pic from a vid on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQWHjj6ofwo

Please note ( important ! )  that the Arry is complete after 5 or as shown in this vid after 9 magnets and not with 6.
Your blue marking is confusing.



Can you please clarify ?

Mike
You can use a 5 or 6  1/2 inch cube magnet Halbach array.  I used six 1/4 inch magnets in my array.
[size=78%]They were not powerful enough to  keep spinning the disk as you can see in my video.  I am waiting for larger 1/2 inch cube magnets now. The North Pole was outermost on [/size][size=78%]my stick and it for all intents had no real magnetic influence in hindering the moton of the disk.[/size]
It's very hard to explain everything.  You must try this yourself and then you will understand where I am at.  All you need is a long flat stick, A Halbach array, and a very large ring magnet as starters.
When you get the array arm to repel away from the outer face edge of the ring magnet you will find it floats .
Now if you twist the secured arm at the end of the stick just a little bit one way or the other so you are close to 45 degrees the arm will not only float but move clockwise or counterclockwise .  And will do this when held in that position ALL THE TIME without any finger movement.
I hope this clears things up.


broli

Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 21, 2018, 09:37:46 PM
They were not powerful enough to  keep spinning the disk as you can see in my video.  I am waiting for larger 1/2 inch cube magnets now. The North Pole was outermost on


I don't want to be the pessimist here but you will discover that size does not matter. Your rotor has very little friction to begin with, even a tiny force would have been enough to keep it spinning.

A radially outward force (which produces no torque) might seem like a tangential one to your hand but when affixed to a rotor you will notice the tangential component seemingly disappears. Notice in the video how the entire stick in your hand is moving, opposed to having its center pivoted to the center of the magnet.


I'm hopeful you can prove me wrong through.

Low-Q

Quote from: broli on April 22, 2018, 03:37:53 AM

I don't want to be the pessimist here but you will discover that size does not matter. Your rotor has very little friction to begin with, even a tiny force would have been enough to keep it spinning.

A radially outward force (which produces no torque) might seem like a tangential one to your hand but when affixed to a rotor you will notice the tangential component seemingly disappears. Notice in the video how the entire stick in your hand is moving, opposed to having its center pivoted to the center of the magnet.


I'm hopeful you can prove me wrong through.
You're right. The stick moves because the path is crossing a magnetic gradient. If the stick has its center at the center of the magnet, the stick-magnet will follow the circumference of the magnet, and not feel any gradient that will force it in one or the other direction.
So, bottom line, this experiment does not lead to anything but a trivial experiment.


Vidar