Kapanadze and other FE discussion

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Wesley may not like it, but I am just going to make a few points that have already been pointed
out, but still seem to be ignored by some people.

From what I have seen, Kapanadze has always used just one earth ground connection (at a time).
Kapanadze has stated his device can work with no earth ground connection by replacing the earth
ground connection with a 'special circuit'.

Akula has demonstrated one of his early devices could self sustain itself and power one or two light
bulbs at the same time, with no earth ground connection at all.

Indications are that the principle behind their devices is not dependent on a potential difference
between two separate earth ground points at a distance from each other.

I agree that Kapanadze did not at all likely 'invent' his devices, as he wasn't trained in science and electronics.
It is much more likely that he got this information from somewhere else. Possibly it came from old Soviet era military
research, and somehow Kapanadze got his hands on some of this info. Just a guess, but still a lot more likely than
the premise of Kapanadze coming up with his devices on his own. Kapanadze also claimed (in the green box video demo
I beleive) that he once 'invented' a car or motor that could run only on water. Where does an architect come
up with this stuff?

Wesley, the two earth ground connections devices may hold some promise, but do not appear to
be directly related to what Kapanadze, Daly, Akula, and Ruslan have done. Until someone can actually
demonstrate something out of the ordinary with these two earth ground connection setups, it is just another idea.
However, Frank Prentice did use at least two separate earth ground connections in his 1923 patent, so there may be
some real potential there with that approach (no pun intended )
Just my opinion.

Does the yellow house not have any connection to the mains. It has no electrical power?

All the best...

P.S. Barbosa and Leal's 'captor loop' devices appear to have just drawn their power from the mains,
and had a tendency to fool power meters because the current was not returned back to the mains
via the neutral wire, but by an earth ground connection. Because of this their claims are very questionable, 
(to anyone with at least a basic understanding of electrical systems anyway), and Barbosa and Leal have
stated they stopped all work on those devices back around Oct 2013 due to 'technical problems' .
I strongly suspect the 'technical problems' they were referring to is they finally realized the power was coming from
the mains. The Barbosa and Leal 'captor loop' devices were not at all credible devices IMO.

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is it that difficult to understand guys?
for current to flow there must be closed  loop.
even one wire transmission using Avramienko fork  is A CLOSED LOOP.

Hi Wesley. It seems to be a common misconception that there must be a closed loop for current to flow.
When you look at AC circuits, things are not so clear cut at all.
Eddy currents in an iron core are one example of currents that can flow which do not return back to the
source in a closed loop.

At radio frequencies, an RF signal will very happily flow on a single wire without there being much return to the
source via capacitance between the wire and ground. In fact the RF signal generator could be run by batteries and
completely isolated from earth ground, and there will still be an rf current seen on a single wire connected to a single 
ended output of the generator. BTW, that in no way implies there must be free energy there however. The power is still coming
from the generator (under 'normal' circumstances anyway).

All the best...

[AlienGrey]

The Question
So tell me what is  the other choice for current to flow in open circuit.?
And since you do not have an answer
than   two grounds / virtual grounds/ or any  other form of explanation  of how the circuit is closed
will  be valid  till proven  otherwise, some time in the far future  I assume.
;--------------------
Wesley
Ground to ground is one solution that might well  work as a closed loop some are not disputing (well i'm not)
and might well try it some time.

But is saying that there is also ground to ether (upper atmosphere static charge) our Lithuanian friends have
been exploiting by lowing the upper level with ones own artificial device.

Whats not clear is how to do it, most circuits that have appeared on here are AC attract / repel,I would have thought
by observation that DC would attract a better result !

Also Tesla talked about a killer EMF when switching a knife breaker 'ON' and 'OFF', Guys should think about the very aspect
find it and read it.
I don't want to appear secretive but guys need to learn the other side of what is deliberately ignored buy minions to
the dark side of controlled ignorance. We are the consciousness of the universe use it and learn, don't wast it.

[stivep]

Hi Wesley. It seems to be a common misconception that there must be a closed loop for current to flow.
When you look at AC circuits, things are not so clear cut at all.
Eddy currents in an iron core are one example of currents that can flow which do not return back to the
source in a closed loop.
At radio frequencies, an RF signal will very happily flow on a single wire without there being much return to the
source via capacitance between the wire and ground. In fact the RF signal generator could be run by batteries and
completely isolated from earth ground, and there will still be an rf current seen on a single wire connected to a single 
ended output of the generator. BTW, that in no way implies there must be free energy there however. The power is still coming
from the generator (under 'normal' circumstances anyway)

All the best...

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Eddy Current only flows in close loop
Magnetic circuit is a closed path in which magnetic flux flows;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_current

RF  signal ( electromagnetic  wave)  is carried by  photon and  has no current./ no mass./ it contains energy.  "RF" -( photon)  has momentum and, RF is  omnidirectional.
However RF has  pattern   based on Tx antenna characteristic. RF is seen as  "_{more than one photon}" and it  is _{continuous in given time frame.}
Photon  loses its energy when colliding with matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon
The reminding energy of  RF  is detected and amplified by closed loop circuit  including  detector and resonance circuit mostly grounded (visibly)

Wesley

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Eddy Current only flows in close loop
Magnetic circuit is a closed path in which magnetic flux flows;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux

RF  signal ( electromagnetic  wave)  is carried by  photon and  has no current./ no mass./ it contains energy.  "RF" -( photon)  has momentum and  is  omnidirectional. However it has  pattern   based on Tx antenna characteristic.
Photon  loses its energy when colliding with matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon
The reminding energy of  RF  is detected and amplified by closed loop circuit  including  detector and resonance circuit mostly grounded (visibly)

Wesley

Eddy currents do not have a *closed current path back to the source*, was my point there.
I am not talking about EM waves, I am talking about RF current on a single wire.

RF current will flow on a single wire that is an open circuit on the far end of the wire,
even though the capacitance from the wire to the generator ground can be very tiny.
Significant RF current can be induced on the single wire with little to no current return back to the generator's ground,
i.e., no significant closed current loop back to the generator 'ground'.  This still draws power from the generator however.

P.S. I realize that Eddy currents are considered to be losses because they couple back to the
generator as a degree of 'load' via the magnetic field. Likewise, RF current generated on a single wire
does 'normally' draw its power from the generator, but the capacitance between the generator and the wire
can be very small, so how it couples back to the generator and causes power consumption may be more through
reflected current. The reflected current is then dissipated in the power output stage of the generator. I am not
entirely sure that is the complete picture, but that may well be what essentially is happening there. AC circuits have
a lot more parameters to consider than basic closed loop DC circuits, is my point. It can sometimes not be so straight forward
at all to fully analyze AC circuits. My general point is that when people think about 'closed looped circuits', they
should not confuse DC circuits and AC circuits. Too often here people seem to confuse the two.