Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[SolarLab]

F.Y.I.

The GROUNDING question is explained well by Gorchilin at  http://gorchilin.com/articles/coil/?lang=en

See Fig. 1.4 attached below - Left is the RLC coil model, Eqn (1); Right is the Long Line coil model, Eqn (2).
Now, with respect to the Grounding question;

compare the Right and Left models and the answer to grounding will become quite clear!

Quotes from Gorchilin's page: 

Note: *math equations shown in MathJax Equation Source - primitive but it's the only way
to even show equations here.

The lumped and distributed resonances in the inductor

Hams and seekers of free energy, there are questions about the different types of resonance that we are here and will try to illuminate. The problem is what it is. Everyone knows that an inductor (hereinafter, simply coil) can be considered as concentrated, and as a long line. In the first case, the formula for determining the resonance will be performing classical Thompson formula:

              f = 1/2\pi\sqrt{L\,(C_l + C)}  (1)

where L  is the inductance of the coil,   C  is its own capacity, and  l is the external capacitance connected parallel to the coil.
In the second case, we consider the coil as a long line, where the wave takes some time to get from one end to the other. If this time is equal to the oscillation period of the oscillator, in a coil set the mode of the standing wave. In this case, the simplified formula would be:

             f = {c\,k \over l} (2)

where c  is the speed of light, k  is the deceleration rate, which, in General, depends on the material of the dielectric, and l  is the length of the winding wire in the coil. This formula is greatly simplified, since   is actually nonlinearly dependent on the length and winding pitch, coil diameter and material of the dielectric. A more accurate formula can be found in [1]. The differences in these two approaches are already visible at this stage, and we will demonstrate that there are many more.

     |   Since the real processes that occur in the coil, is little known, and we shall not stop.
     |  Consider the mathematical model which with sufficient accuracy describe these processes,
     |  and the results of such calculations can be seen on real devices.

Two models

Consider the direct asymmetric long line DL in figure 1.1, which is excited from a sinusoidal voltage source E1, through the inductor L1. Take her private for the case where DL fits in exactly half the wavelength. Thus, on its edges, we get the maximum current, and in the center of the maximum voltage. All measurements will be carried out at a load resistance R1, the value of which will choose a lot less the wave resistance of the line. For the manifestation of two independent processes it is also important that DL was as far away from earth.

For the mathematical model this means that if DL is to roll into a coil, its diameter will be much smaller this distance. In this case, the calculation of the line is about to produce by the formula (2), since the parasitic capacitance is practically nonexistent and work well with the classical formula of Telegraph equations.

  SEE ATTACHED DIAGRAM

If DL put in parallel to the capacitor C1 (Fig. 1.2), it will begin to work one process, almost do not affect the wave. It is obvious that in this case we are dealing with an oscillatory circuit, the inductance which is the inductance of the line segment DL. I.e. a second, independent model, which can be easily calculated by the classic formula of Thompson (1).

Now it is easy to imagine what happens if we turn this long line in a coil — slightly changes its own capacitance and inductance, and two of the process and will work almost independently from each other. By the way, in this case, the wave model is better to rely on more precise formula, presented in [1].

Why are these processes, and thus their models, are independent? Look at figure 1.4, which shows their equivalent circuits. DL is in the standing wave, and since R1 is much less than the wave resistance, wave — almost no losses (right). On the wave process capacity C1 does not render almost any influence, but it forms with the inductance DL RLC circuit, which in turn also works independently (left figure). Changing C1 also has no effect on the wave process, but completely changes the picture of the LC resonance.

According to the author, the independence of the processes due to their work in different reference systems. The assemblage point, or point of combining these two systems is the load R1.

For skeptics who believe that in the coil (or in a long line) can't go two independent processes at the same time, a simplified model (Fig. 1.3), which added another DC power source E2. It is bridged by a capacitor C2 to a lower internal resistance at high frequency. As you can see on R1 we get the constant offset from E2, and independent of the antinode of the current standing wave from E1.

The combination of the two models

Next, we will focus on the DL of a rolled coil. This option is currently the best studied. Our great experimenters provided the data, which suggests that when combining two models, the resistance of R1 increases dramatically the amplitude of the signal that rightly can be compared with the increase of the quality factor. This becomes very clear if we consider two independent models: if the processes are combined, it really will be the addition of the amplitudes. Also, researchers say about "the toe" — the phenomenon in which the increasing amplitude is kept even if there is some frequency deviation oscillator. But we'll talk about it another time, but for now imagine a calculator that can find points of combining the two models. http://gorchilin.com/calculator/reactor?lang=en

In fairness it should be noted that for combining standing wave and LC resonance, working on the harmonics, all the same it is better to use a non-inductive winding DL. Then the wave process is almost unchanged, and focused resonance is easier. This type of winding the researchers called a "grenade" or "dumbbell".

*** See Gorchilin's page for a proper layout, diagram and notation of the equations.

FIN

[onepower]

Solarlab
good post... good to see some have not given up.

Ruslan K 1 year ago (edited) - "In that setup, I use Tesla's patent on the removal of radiant energy!
Charging capacitors radiant dumped through the transformer in the load. The primary is a lot of turns,
the secondary is short for creating a current in the transformer. The ring should be with good magnetic
permeability !!! Otherwise, there will be little return. There I got only 150 watts to take off.

In this quote is a clue most people miss and for the few that do see it generally makes absolutely no sense. One can have a primary with many turns and a secondary with fewer turns however the secondary induced voltage can be equal or greater than the primary voltage. I think Ruslan knows this and the fact he understands that a Tesla coil is not required and other geometries may be superior is significant in my opinion. I came to the same conclusion, Tesla coils are simply too long and this takes away from the desired effect.

It's kind of like a puzzle and nothing makes sense until first we recognize what the piece is and then later where it fits in the bigger picture. Think about that... what looks just like a transformer but obviously is not entirely a transformer? , a transformer which has turns of conductor but does not always follow the turns ratio rule?. How can this be?, it makes no sense and then the piece fell into place and I felt silly that it took so long to understand something so simple, so fundamental in every aspect of nature. It is not for everyone.

This is what I absolutely fucking love about this field of technology... it never gives you an inch. Intellectually it's always an uphill battle and nothing is ever as it seems because everything is always fluid, dynamic and always changing. I have this simple rule... if I have not learned something new today which has completely changed my mind about something I thought I knew yesterday then I have learned nothing.

To "learn", ie."Gain or acquire knowledge of or skill in (something) by study, experience, or being taught"
To be "taught"?, but what if the people who presume to teach me are fucking half-wits... what then?. what if a majority of society is degenerate and prone to false beliefs what then?. Thus true learning must always rely on logic, reason, reality and above all else proof and not marginalized by mere populists beliefs.

So there you have it my friend and if you want to move forward there is only one question which should occupy your thoughts from this moment on... how, when and why does the standard transformer turns ratio rule or action between two coils not apply?. Any fool can read a textbook or google the question and tell me why it must apply but that is not the question I am asking... I am asking when it does not apply? and that is a very different question which apparently few have the intelligence to answer.

[AlienGrey]

@Onepower

Solarlab
good post... good to see some have not given up.
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why would any one bow to such disrespect on this tread ?

[Void]

As has been stated by Wesley & others, OU is not achievable.It has nothing to do with the basics being wrong.

People state all sorts of things, but it doesn't mean they are correct.
'Over unity' is just a term which indicates that you measure more power out
across a load than the measured input power. In my opinion there is nothing
at all wrong with the term, since its meaning is clear. Using the term COP > 1
may be a more acceptable term to some people, but both indicate the same type of result.

Neither term alone indicates or limits where exactly the excess energy is coming from, only that excess energy
is apparent. Most people probably accept that the excess energy would have to be coming from somewhere however,
such as possibly 'outside the system', but if you are talking about energy coming from outside a system, in such a case you first
need to define the boundaries of your system.  Anyway, for me, it is not a big deal at all, since the meaning is clear in both cases.
You measure more output power than input power. Where the excess energy comes from would be dependent on each individual case.

[TinselKoala]

Does the system include the honking great FM radio station's transmitting antenna in Ruslan's backyard?